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Lake Ontario water level swells at incredible pace in April

Pretty sure that Lake Ontario's record water level is reflected in the other Great Lakes - they're connected. :wink:

Apparently above average rainfall is expected in May. 8)

http://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/ ... swell.html
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Lake Ontario is now within 1/2 a foot of the all-time high level. Tomfoolery and I sail out of a bay of Lake Ontario and there is some minor flooding in marinas around the bay. Lakeside homeowners on the south shore are concerned about significant erosion with a strong northerly wind.

Great Lakes levels and predictions:
http://w3.lre.usace.army.mil/hh/Forecas ... nglish.pdf

More reports for the curious:
http://www.lre.usace.army.mil/Missions/ ... onditions/

This doesn't bother me much, my dock is a floating dock. :) Perhaps I'll just park my boat in the marina parking lot and let nature launch it. :wink:
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Mac26S-95 wrote:Lake Ontario is now within 1/2 a foot of the all-time high level.
I read somewhere that the record, at least since records have been kept, which isn't all that far back on the time scale of Lake Ontario, was set 20 years ago, and was about a foot higher than at the time I read it. Since the Lake is still gaining depth, that 1/2 foot is probably consistent with what I read a couple of weeks ago. They don't want to let water out through the St. Lawrence any faster, as they're trying to share the pain but not tilt it too far either way.

I'm sure you've read or heard folks complaining about Plan 2014 being the cause, but it's just a LOT of rain and snow melt, and it happens every so often. Plan 2014 only increases and decreases the water level by an inch or two, not by feet.
Mac26S-95 wrote:Tomfoolery and I sail out of a bay of Lake Ontario and there is some minor flooding in marinas around the bay. Lakeside homeowners on the south shore are concerned about significant erosion with a strong northerly wind.
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This doesn't bother me much, my dock is a floating dock. :) Perhaps I'll just park my boat in the marina parking lot and let nature launch it. :wink:
At least they don't have the Fast Ferry to worry about any more. The wakes from that apparently were doing a job on the shore line. :P

I went to the marina the other day, and instead of walking down the hinged ramp to the floating dock, I was walking up the ramp. :D The water was over the top of the launch ramp steel tracks and rounded bollards. The pilings the floating dock rings slide over were looking pretty short. :D :D
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'm sure you've read or heard folks complaining about Plan 2014 being the cause, but it's just a LOT of rain and snow melt, and it happens every so often. Plan 2014 only increases and decreases the water level by an inch or two, not by feet.
The record was set in 1973. Yes, the politicians were quick to point the finger at Plan 2014, but I agree with you, this current level is simply due to above-average precipitation in the watershed. I'm glad I don't own lake-front property up in the Town of Greece.
I went to the marina the other day, and instead of walking down the hinged ramp to the floating dock, I was walking up the ramp. :D The water was over the top of the launch ramp steel tracks and rounded bollards. The pilings the floating dock rings slide over were looking pretty short. :D :D
Geez Tom, you got me worried, so I had to go check out my slip. It was weird walking up the ramp to the dock. Some of the slips are in rough shape, and there were a few finger docks where the slip ring was above the piling. :o I'm guessing those would be pretty wobbly. My slip was in good shape however :) and I'm hoping to splash this coming week.

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Launch ramp is a bit tricky:

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Crap...is that the Seabreeze ramp at the head of the Bay?
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That looks like the private (Mayer's Marina?) ramp on the east side of the inlet. Seabreeze ramp, which I think is county, is on the west side, a stone's throw (literally) away. The first shot is looking north, at the houses on Lake Road which is on the skinny strip of sand between Irondequoit Bay and Lake Ontario. The second photo is looking south, with the inlet to the right (don't know my left from my other) just out of the shot.

If I've got my bearings right. :?

My marina is 4 miles south at the other end of the bay.
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Tom's right - these shots were taken at Mayer's Marina on the east side of the bay inlet (to the right in the shot of the ramp). He also correctly identified the houses along Lake Road in Webster. :) In the fall, when the water is much lower, I don't recommend using this ramp because my trailer wheels fall off the end of the concrete ramp into the hole dug by boaters powering their boats onto their trailers. :? The State ramp on the west side of the inlet (Seabreeze ramp, as Catigale called it) is longer and works well for me with lower water levels.

Now if we can just get a decent weather-window so I can splash my boat. 8)
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All that water is flowing downriver past Montreal.

Here is the road and parking lot leading to our launch ramp on to Lac St. Louis (really just a wide part of the river):

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Normally we park the truck and trailer over to the left of the yellow chevron, and the ramp is to the right.


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For those of you who don't know our club (PCYC) there is normally a four or five foot drop from the white railing down to the water level where the docks should be floating. They have turned off the electricity to the clubhouse, expecting water levels to rise again in the next few days. It's raining cats and dogs again.

On another thread, last night our house and boat were narrowly missed by a lightning strike in our back yard. The explosion shook the walls of the house and rattled the blinds. Thunder is really a short and loud sound when you're close. Just a bang, not a rumble. Frkn scary.
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Starscream wrote:. Thunder is really a short and loud sound when you're close. Just a bang, not a rumble. Frkn scary.
Geeze - I'm already scared and I'm not even there! :cry: you guys are brave - I am afraid of the lighting and thunder - it does not come over here much - and the water goes up and down all the time over here - not sure why your water is going up and down in inches over there = over here is goes up 2 feet and then down three, and then up 3 feet and then down again - it does it twice a day! If the water went up only 3 inches that would be sort of cool for anchoring.
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2 or 3 feet?

Its the end of April, this means easter tides, we are getting tidal ranges of 3 or 4 yards at this time of the year.

Todays High was 3.30meters (11 feet), low tide is .18 (7 inches), low tide at this time of the year best parts of empties the bay we sail in, there is just a few channels with water left in them.
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Went to my marina yesterday, just to have a look-see and take a couple of pics. Water is up over the steel ramp treads, and even over the rounded bollards that keep you from popping a tire if you miss the target (hard to do with the painted lines, but possible I suppose). The hinged ramp to the floating docks actually goes up hill instead of down hill. :|

Just posted because it's a little bit interesting.

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You can just see the tops of the submerged bollards.

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These private markers with LED flashers on top are usually sticking up pretty high. The speed limit sign under the green flag is a little bit in the water, which is what caught my attention. :o

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Yup, it's getting pretty high. :cry: I may have to use the State Ramp or yours - "my" ramp may not get steep enough soon enough. :(

On another note, they've started dredging the outlet again. Perhaps we won't have to hug the outside of the bend as we enter the lake. If you're interested, there's a webcam on the internet that displays a static image of the outlet that updates every couple of minutes. At the moment, you can see the dredge. You can find it here: http://wwc.instacam.com/instacamimg/RCH ... 3937322430 Refresh your browser window every once in awhile to get the new image.

Looking west along the gas docks towards the outlet and the State launch is in the distance.

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I didn't know they were dredging again. They just did it a few years ago, as I recall. I used to have to almost hug the rocks on the outside, even going against traffic, when I had a keel boat in Newport. No choice. But as I recall, since moving back into the bay from the river, the inside of the bend was quite deep. Maybe not enough for a 6 ft draft boat, but plenty deep for the average power boat. And Mac motor-sailor. 8) :wink:
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I took a few shots of the Irondequoit Bay outlet bridge, which is open to boat traffic for the season now. I've never seen this before - the roller path and rack segments are under water. As many times as I've gone through that outlet, the water has never been close. Now it's under water. :|

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It's hard to see in a small pic, and it's dark under there, but the roller path and part of the rollers are submerged.

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There is major flooding in Montreal. Lac des Deux Montagnes is at its highest level ever, by more than 40cm. And more to come.

The red line is current, and the grey line is the previous record high. Green is average, and purple is the record low.
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