I FOUND A (BIG) BOAT

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Post by pokerrick1 »

Catigale wrote:Sounds like the NUTS to me....
That WILL be it's new name :!: :!:

Rick :) :macm: less but not for long
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Rick,

Good to hear you are getting back on the water, but you have to change this.....
Rick :macm:less but not for long
Unless that is, you are getting another :macm:

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I love to tell my friends that I know somebody that actually makes a living by playing poker. Sometimes they don't believe me. Then, the Admiral verifies. No one questions her. Now, I can tell them that my friend is good enough at poker to buy a HUGE yacht!!!

Keep it up!

Thanks,

Dennis
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dennisneal wrote:I love to tell my friends that I know somebody that actually makes a living by playing poker. Sometimes they don't believe me. Then, the Admiral verifies. No one questions her. Now, I can tell them that my friend is good enough at poker to buy a HUGE yacht!!!

Keep it up!

Thanks,

Dennis
Except, Dennis, I am fully retired now and have been since May 2008. I just play now for something to do - - - except this year I got lucky and have 3 big tournament wins, each worth 100K+. Next year I'll probably only play a few tournaments and will probably only net 40 to 50K playing cash games (enough to pay my slip fees and diesel - - that's all I want to do). Next time you get to Las Vegas - - - let me know and we'll go "yachting" :D :D :D

Rick :) :macm: Less
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Rick, I assume there are a few donkeys for when you need to re-fuel too, if necessary. :wink: :P Rob 8)
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Is this what we are talking about?

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Post by Gazmn »

Nice Expen$$ive Yacht there Rick :)

But I agree with you. Life is short - Play Hard...

It'll be nice to see you back in the boating game - your moniker looked so sad:
Rick :macm: Less
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pokerrick1 wrote:Except, Dennis, I am fully retired now and have been since May 2008. I just play now for something to do - - - except this year I got lucky and have 3 big tournament wins, each worth 100K+. Next year I'll probably only play a few tournaments and will probably only net 40 to 50K playing cash games (enough to pay my slip fees and diesel - - that's all I want to do). Next time you get to Las Vegas - - - let me know and we'll go "yachting" :D :D :D

Rick :) :macm: Less
That doesn't sound like retired. :)

Yea, it's pretty cool to know someone who is so successful at playing poker. I have a friend who is getting into online poker and wants to make a living at it. I read a little about it and it's totally confusing.

Now that you are a BIG yacht owner I hope you will continue to slum it on the Mac forum. We enjoy your contributions.

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Post by waternwaves »

Congratulations Rick!!

Nice western navy there. I can install a stablilizing mast to carry a small steadying sail. just make sure that you carry enough fenders to raft up with all those Macs on the lake.

BTW.

Nice job on the retirement. Enjoy it now.

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Scott wrote:Is this what we are talking about?

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Yes, Scott, that's the same boat we WERE talking about - - - but not anymore, see my post below :(

It's MUCH bigger inside than it looks outside.

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BEGINNING OF THE END OF THIS THREAD

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One of THE BEST $1,200.00 bills I EVER SPENT (and includes airfare). I picked up the surveyor at the airport first thing this morning and took him directly to the boat where the owner met us. I departed and left him alone. Late this morning he called me to pick him up and I knew something was wrong when he was waiting on the shore for me and not on the boat. We printed out his report from his laptop to my printer. Here are some of the negative items from the summary of his report, which came after the stuff I didn't understand like compression ratios, voltage and amperage numbers:

This craft has been recently cosmetically altered, but has NOT been maintained; ABSOLUTELY DO NOT BUY!

Although the engines look good; they have just been steam cleaned and both need substantial repairs; I suspect because of neglect. The hour meters have been altered and placed back in their slots incorrectly. The engine bildge contains liquid oil. (Note from Rick - - I had looked in the bildge and saw NO OIL - - - but the owner probably cleaned out the oil for my visit and then when we started the engines Monday and today the oil reappeared and he forgot to clean up inbetween).

I started the Kohler 12kw generator and it hardly put out any power. It should probably be replaced.

The air conditioning does not blow cold enough for your heat. I have no idea what the problem is but the system needs work. I measured the temperatures of air coming out of several vents at around 71F. It should be much colder.

I didn't bother testing the hull after I discovered the problems with the engines and generator; however, I think there is hull damage as if the craft hit something. I inspected the outside of the fore hull from the dock; and a very professional repair job has been done, although I can tell a very slight difference between the color of the hull there and amidship? I also didn't bother to take the craft out of it's slip.

I could not get the Raymarine radar to operate. It turns on but does not operate.

The owner told me several blatant lies during my inspection; to which I just nodded and said nothing.

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It's a small world - - - the surveyor told me he is sure he saw this boat in Marina Del Rey in 2005 & 2006 (I wondered why it had freshwater washdown and a few other items meant for Ocean boats). So the owner lied to me when he said this boat has always been on Lake Mead.

It looks like I will escape this trap cheaply enough. When we wrote the sales contract the other day (and I wrote it) the owner wanted $10,000 down (which actually was reasonable), but since I was going to take possession of the boat Saturday and pay him with a certified check which I would arrange for him to take to my bank and distribute where he wanted; I talked him into a $1,000.00 deposit and gave it to him in cash.

I have a feeling I am going to have difficulty getting my deposit back even though the contract clearly calls for it's return if the survey is negative - - - but even if I never get it back - - - I feel like I made the great escape here! WHEW!

Let this be a lesson to all of us! This boat looked pristine to me; but the surveyor gave it a "DO NOT BUY". Most of you are better than I at determining whether boats are good or not; but all of us are capable of being duped if we don't take proper precautions. Believe me, I think that someone (unfortunately) may wind up getting shafted on this boat! Naturally, I am very dissapointed that the boat turned out to be not what I thought - - - but I am THRILLED to have escaped an almost $300,000 trap!

Rick

PS So the search for flotation continues.

PPS In response to a post above somewhere - - - we never intended to live on this boat - - - we have two homes we bought when we moved here - - - a cheap one in Henderson that we live in and an expensive one in Summerlin we bought as an investment. However, we probably would have thrown a few parties from time to time on the boat (poker players love to party; as do boaters)! :D :D
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Post by Nautek »

Hi Rick

That's a bummer but it sure pays to check these things out.
I have just gone this way also recently however mine passed the survey.
I just have to sell the Mac now :| (any takers in OZ??)

Good luck in your search.
I have seen some really reasonable boats for sale in the US lately

Allan
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Rick - at most, 0.6% of the purchase price avoided a major mistake - money well spent...
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Post by FLembo18 »

Rick, I was elated when I saw your first post, now I'm even happier that you didn't get screwed !

Not to worry, Rick, your next boat will also have a jacuzzi onboard ! 8)


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Post by My Time »

Can you teach me how to play poker!!! I want a 37' Benateau....
http://www.beneteauusa.com/#/?boat=Beneteau37
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