26x changed to new mast raising system

[Kilblaan]

Oh that's a bail

Where do I find "Johnson Lever"?? ... tried a Google search and got nothing ... sounds like a much better solution than a BWY backstay tensioner or using a ss turnbuckle.

Thanks
David

[bscott]

Thanks for all the replies - much wiser now

Couple of questions: What is a 'Johnson lever' What is a bail/bale that you attach to the mast - is this a bail snap shackle

I use a small Johnson lever (quick release shroud lever--WM 246175) on my BStays so I can relieve any resistance the stays might place on the mast rotation if you keep the stays attached while sailing. They also allow the mast to be easily placed into the mast base when stepping the mast.
If you trailer alot, these stay on the mast and save you lots of rigging time.
OK--boom bail that will fit to the mast

Bob

[Kilblaan]

Doing some more research I see where it originated with the "Johnson Bar" ... I just need to find a source for the "Johnson adjustable lever" - can I get it at my local marine store The Chandlery http://www.thechandleryonline.com/index.php ... like the idea of slacking the backstay by 1 7/8" and then just using a lever to retension vs using a turnbuckle or boom vang like tensioner.

David

[Kilblaan]

Got it http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... &langId=-1 ... great advice!!

I'm sure The Chandlery will have it in stock

Many thanks to all!

[DaveB]

Just like taking a horse to water, but Ya can't make um drink.
Just kidding, love to crank Tractors
Dave

Got it http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... &langId=-1 ... great advice!!

I'm sure The Chandlery will have it in stock

Many thanks to all!

[Nautek]

Try Hyfield lever

Allan

[dive4it]

Last weekend, I took my raising pole and added a small winch to it. I also attached a block to both sides at the top. I run a double line from my winch spool, one end through each block and to the forward cleat and one to the mast bail (at the babystays). When I crank it up, the mast comes up and the pole tilts down to about a 40 degree angle once the mast is at 90. It keeps me from having to bend down to crank or having the MRS interfere with the mast as they meet at the 90. It takes away some of the mechanical advantage of the winch but it raises it twice as fast per crank and let's face it....you could crank it with one finger normally....this only requires two fingers. When you're done, you just clip off the free ends of the line and crank it up for a nice tidy compact storage of the MRS.

JT

[Sea Wind]

I bought the following winch for converting the MRS in my :
http://www.amazon.com/Reese-74337-Towpo ... inch+reese

It is the same system as in the trailer winch where the brake engages while I am raising the mast. My question is, how about lowering the mast? There is no brake while lowering the mast which means if I somehow let go the handle the mast would freefall, right? Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Sea Wind

[K9Kampers]

Sea Wind-

Under the product description tab where it says "unreels easily", for your intended use, that means the mast will drop & it will hurt! For this application, you should be looking for a winch with the description "two way ratchet for top / bottom loading".

[Tomfoolery]

It is the same system as in the trailer winch where the brake engages while I am raising the mast.

Technically, it's a ratchet, not a brake. They're no suitable for overhead lifting. What you want is called a 'brake winch', where it will support the load in a fail-safe manner, raising or lowering.

I'm pretty sure MacGregor uses a Dutton-Lainson brake winch on their style mast raising systems. http://www.dutton-lainson.com/products.php?cat=19

[The Mutt]

I'm pretty sure MacGregor uses a Dutton-Lainson brake winch on their style mast raising systems. http://www.dutton-lainson.com/products.php?cat=19

I assume you are talking of the 350lb (159kg) capacity DLB350A, the 2500lb (1139kg) DLB2500A might be overkill. I've been looking at a similar friction brake winch 1201lb (545kg) with 4.25:1 gear ratio, I hope it high enough capacity.

Glenn

[Ormonddude]

OK Maybe I am a Cheap SOB again but I just used this - http://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-ca ... 65688.html and this
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... GaD5FG5zKc get the 3-1/8" You Need a Smaller Diameter bolt and attach at the baby Stays the conversion literally took me about a hour and works perfectly.
Edit:(seen first page) The baby stays you have will work fine the Raising system is the same basically as the but instead of using the Jib Halyard your going to clip on to the New Bail you added at the baby stays Thats it your done. Here is how it works - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5i0nLon1aA
Also I used the Original Gin Pole from old raising system took the block off and mounted the winch at the top with a U-Bolt and the Bolt that held the Clip for the Original block - When I did the conversion this site and and both manuals & where used to make sure I was not bone headed and making it way to easy - It is literally just that easy pull old block and tackle off gin pole add winch add the bail at the baby stays (slightly smaller diameter bolt needed to pass through the bail) and your Done Hook a strong line from the winch end to the other clip and the clip on the boat at about a 45 degree angle and crank the mast up.

[DaveB]

Duck works, while you are there , buy the quick release cams for rudders,they work great but you need to change to 1/4 inch rudder lines.
Never know what your going to hit.

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware/cl ... /index.htm

Oh that's a bail
Dave


Where do I find "Johnson Lever"?? ... tried a Google search and got nothing ... sounds like a much better solution than a BWY backstay tensioner or using a ss turnbuckle.

Thanks
David