Engine "Pee"

A forum for discussing topics relating to MacGregor Powersailor Sailboats
trdprotruck
First Officer
Posts: 203
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:01 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Yorba Linda, CA

Re: Engine "Pee"

Post by trdprotruck »

You might also want to check the thermostat and make sure that it is not stuck closed. The thermostat's purpose is to restrict the pee flow until the engine gets up to temperature and open up the flow to let the engine not overheat.

One crude check of this is to place the thermostat in some hot water and see if it open up and closes fine.

-Randy
User avatar
Tomfoolery
Admiral
Posts: 6135
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:42 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Rochester, NY '99X BF50 'Tomfoolery'

Re: Engine "Pee"

Post by Tomfoolery »

trdprotruck wrote:The thermostat's purpose is to restrict the pee flow until the engine gets up to temperature and open up the flow to let the engine not overheat.
You mean through the engine. An ice-cold engine will still pee through it's indicator hole. Or at least everyone one I've seen in my admittedly limited outboard motor experience.
trdprotruck wrote:One crude check of this is to place the thermostat in some hot water and see if it open up and closes fine.
I did that when I was still dating the admiral, with the thermostat out of my Gremlin (yeah, I admit it, but it was damn reliable :D ). In one of her Farberware pots. And she still talks about it, 27 years later. :|

Moral of the story being, don't use someone else's good pot to test a thermostat on that someone else's stove, right in front of that same someone else. :D
trdprotruck
First Officer
Posts: 203
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:01 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Yorba Linda, CA

Re: Engine "Pee"

Post by trdprotruck »

tkanzler wrote:You mean through the engine. An ice-cold engine will still pee through it's indicator hole. Or at least everyone one I've seen in my admittedly limited outboard motor experience.
With a properly working thermostat, I too think there should still be some sort of pee stream during cold startup. It doesn't hurt to change it out though as part of regular outboard maintenance.

Yep and don't use the admiral's good pot LOL :D

-Randy
kevinnem
First Officer
Posts: 324
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:43 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Calgary, Alberta

Re: Engine "Pee"

Post by kevinnem »

not to hi-jack the thread. but I have a 1996 50 hp Evenrude. I have NO idea were to get the lower leg oil, I don't even know what to look for, I was hopeing here in canada - was hoping walmart or canadian tire owuld have - any advise, and were do I get the pump?

Kev.
User avatar
DaveB
Admiral
Posts: 2543
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:34 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Cape Coral, Florida,1997 Mac. X, 2013 Merc.50hp Big Foot, sold 9/10/15

Re: Engine "Pee"

Post by DaveB »

I had a 1997 Honda 50 and is correct the manifacture did increase the size of opening at the block around 2000, easy fix just unscrew old fitting and add new.
Also the external end of the plastic tube just at the pee hole has a plastic fitting same size as the block fitting and can clog there.
At least at that point you can stick a small wire up about 2 inches and move up and down until it is clear.
I increased that plastic to a brass fitting same ID of the 2000 fitting.
I have posts in the past refering to this problem and may have mentioned part number, do a archive search about a year ago under my screen name. (DaveB)
I bet thats his problem.
Dave
opie wrote:If your Honda 50hp is also 1997, be aware that Honda changed the water indicator engine fitting to a larger internal diameter in 2004. Check the archives here for that part number and other suggestions for improved pee stream.
Last edited by DaveB on Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
trdprotruck
First Officer
Posts: 203
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:01 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Yorba Linda, CA

Re: Engine "Pee"

Post by trdprotruck »

kevinnem wrote:not to hi-jack the thread. but I have a 1996 50 hp Evenrude. I have NO idea were to get the lower leg oil, I don't even know what to look for, I was hopeing here in canada - was hoping walmart or canadian tire owuld have - any advise, and were do I get the pump?

Kev.
PM'd you
Boblee
Admiral
Posts: 1702
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:08 am
Location: Berrigan, Riverina Australia boatless at present

Re: Engine "Pee"

Post by Boblee »

We have problems here with wasps etc clogging the tubes up but always get my impellers etc checked each year and have just had both the etec and the honda on the dinghy done.
Why do I get it done instead of doing it myself?, because we have a very good and fussy mechanic who is more likely to pick up any other problems while doing it and the places we go are very isolated and harsh if caught out, another reason to have two good motors and tow a dinghy.
User avatar
Catigale
Site Admin
Posts: 10421
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:59 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Admiral .............Catigale 2002X.......Lots of Harpoon Hobie 16 Skiffs....Island 17
Contact:

Re: Engine "Pee"

Post by Catigale »

Moral of the story being, don't use someone else's good pot to test a thermostat on that someone else's stove, right in front of that same someone else.
Ok now in WA and CO...
User avatar
Tomfoolery
Admiral
Posts: 6135
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:42 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Rochester, NY '99X BF50 'Tomfoolery'

Re: Engine "Pee"

Post by Tomfoolery »

Catigale wrote:
Moral of the story being, don't use someone else's good pot to test a thermostat on that someone else's stove, right in front of that same someone else.
Ok now in WA and CO...
:D :D :D :D Had to think about that one for a bit. :|
hschumac
Chief Steward
Posts: 73
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:35 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X

Re: Engine "Pee"

Post by hschumac »

I have a Tohatsu 50D and had the same problem. Had a new impeller installed, went out for the first time, got a dribble of water out of the hole, then just steam, and then when I would put it in gear, overheat alarm.

Tried Salt-away to try to clear it but no luck. Back into the shop and with a compressor and hose, they were able to blast out the accumulated deposits (salt) with 120psi and it has been fine ever since. I was half and half fresh and salt, always flushed it after the salt trips, but it stil clogged.
Post Reply