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Dimitri-2000X-Tampa wrote:Paul, does that FX-11 fit inside the 26M anchor locker? If so, it must be larger than the locker of the 26X as I remember reading lots of reports that the FX-11 wouldn't quite fit. I have the GX-11 which is Guardian (the lower cost division of Fortress?) and it does just barely fit inside the locker. I also have never had the GX-11 come unset either...but still wonder if it is big enough for serious overnight cruising.

Yes, it fits quite well, at least in the M locker. More than enough room (see pic) for the 10' of chain and 200' of rode.

The anchor roller is kinda neet too. Makes it a bit easier to bring up.

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Paul

Paul S wrote: . . . A lot of things should have come standard . . . She was surprised that the sail did not come with slugs, nor the geneoa with a UV standard ! I know...its a Magregor Anyone in the Boston/South area, I would recommend this shop in a heartbeat.

Observation from a different thread ... the meager list of standard enhancements is a topic of unending debate, but a sailmakers opinion is predictable. OTOH, she undoubtedly prefers selling her services to the owner than to a dealer. (Sounds like a good sailmaker though - too bad the dealer won't get that endorsement).

Macgregor's plan is to give you as many options as the dealer will install, and the buyer's willing to pay for. But then, that requires finding a real dealer. I preferred Roger's approach of holding a bare minimum price so I could add only the options that I wanted myself. One example ... I did not want a UV strip, choosing instead a furler sock for my Genoa.

Paul S wrote:Yes, it fits quite well, at least in the M locker. More than enough room (see pic) for the 10' of chain and 200' of rode. The anchor roller is kinda neet too. Makes it a bit easier to bring up.

My X-boat didn't come with anchor roller, and the locker is smaller ... guess that Macgregor 26M isn't lacking for everything, eh Paul?

The automotive industry offers a low-ball, stripper version, but they never ship that way. As stated above ... a potentially eternal debate.

Frank C wrote:

Paul S wrote: . . . A lot of things should have come standard . . . She was surprised that the sail did not come with slugs, nor the geneoa with a UV standard ! I know...its a Magregor Anyone in the Boston/South area, I would recommend this shop in a heartbeat.

Observation from a different thread ... the meager list of standard enhancements is a topic of unending debate, but a sailmakers opinion is predictable. OTOH, she undoubtedly prefers selling her services to the owner than to a dealer. (Sounds like a good sailmaker though - too bad the dealer won't get that endorsement).

Macgregor's plan is to give you as many options as the dealer will install, and the buyer's willing to pay for. But then, that requires finding a real dealer. I preferred Roger's approach of holding a bare minimum price so I could add only the options that I wanted myself. One example ... I did not want a UV strip, choosing instead a furler sock for my Genoa.

Paul S wrote:Yes, it fits quite well, at least in the M locker. More than enough room (see pic) for the 10' of chain and 200' of rode. The anchor roller is kinda neet too. Makes it a bit easier to bring up.

My X-boat didn't come with anchor roller, and the locker is smaller ... guess that Macgregor 26M isn't lacking for everything, eh Paul?

The automotive industry offers a low-ball, stripper version, but they never ship that way. As stated above ... a potentially eternal debate.

Sometimes I feel a bit pi$$ because I was not explained the value of some options (slugs/UV/etc) that I might have purchased, that I now have to buy elsewhere. Other times I am glad I didn't buy originally, so I can pick and choose the installer/material/color/etc to fit our needs better. Since sails and canvas work is all they do, I feel better how everything worked out.

The sailmaker loved the boat, being able to trailer/raise the mast and sails in next to no time. She was impressed with the quality and contrstruction of the sails considering the price (of the geneoa) and that they were production sails, not custom.

The newer Ms have a few more features than the earlier ones (roller, etc), but there was also a price increase too. Still the best value out there.

Paul

Paul S wrote: ... was not explained the value of some options (slugs/UV/etc) that I might have purchased, that I now have to buy elsewhere. Other times I am glad I didn't buy originally, so I can pick and choose the installer/material/color/etc to fit our needs better. Since sails and canvas work is all they do, I feel better how everything worked out. .... Still the best value out there.

In my case, I added all the options that I was *sure* I wanted, to get a finished delivery with just one check. That was a mistake. I had the halyard run aft, but after using it, I didn't like the dealer's design (yes there are different approaches). I had the dealer install single-line reefing - another example where I'd wished I'd waited. Agree though re sail slugs - that was necessary for novice use of the boat, IMO.

My advice to a new buyer is to add the bare minimum of dealer options, and try the boat on for size, style, function, etc. No stove (unless you have a tax issue), no furler, no special rigging, no stereo, no speakers, no extra batteries, no dealer specials on instruments .... IMO, the best way to buy a Mac is just the basic sail package, plus a closely studied engine choice. (and in CA, have the dealer price the outboard & installation a week later, keeping $7,000 off the assessed value of the boat/trailer).

Kinda like buying a new house ... if you don't need it wrapped into the mortgage, you can always buy it later, with better quality, to your precise specifications, for less cost.

Frank C wrote:

Paul S wrote: ... was not explained the value of some options (slugs/UV/etc) that I might have purchased, that I now have to buy elsewhere. Other times I am glad I didn't buy originally, so I can pick and choose the installer/material/color/etc to fit our needs better. Since sails and canvas work is all they do, I feel better how everything worked out. .... Still the best value out there.

In my case, I added all the options that I was *sure* I wanted, to get a finished delivery with just one check. That was a mistake. I had the halyard run aft, but after using it, I didn't like the dealer's design (yes there are different approaches). I had the dealer install single-line reefing - another example where I'd wished I'd waited. Agree though re sail slugs - that was necessary for novice use of the boat, IMO.

My advice to a new buyer is to add the bare minimum of dealer options, and try the boat on for size, style, function, etc. No stove (unless you have a tax issue), no furler, no special rigging, no stereo, no speakers, no extra batteries, no dealer specials on instruments .... IMO, the best way to buy a Mac is just the basic sail package, plus a closely studied engine choice. (and in CA, have the dealer price the outboard & installation a week later, keeping $7,000 off the assessed value of the boat/trailer).

Kinda like buying a new house ... if you don't need it wrapped into the mortgage, you can always buy it later, with better quality, to your precise specifications, for less cost.

That is pretty much what we did. Our boat with the Honda 50, RF, Geneoa, delivery charge, etc was about $26K, can't get much cheaper than that for brand new. Overall I am happy with the turn of events (other than the visit to the Honda dealer).

Paul