I ordered a storm sail from the Sailwarehouse, with #6 luff tape to fit my furler, and they sent me a hank-on by mistake...
Im taking it as a sign that I should be contemplating a second forestay for my and ordering a jib with hanks...
Im thinking of getting a forestay that will stay on the mast, attach and store at the mast base, and then attach at the second pin at the bow chainplate of course....
Changing the headsail on the CDI furler takes about 15 minutes, but if you need to change the job quickly, that is too long imho...
That's what I want to do too. The jib is on a furler, so the other forestay for the genoa would be attached to the front--where the mast goes in the down position.
Anyone knows where I could get a bracket for the top of the mast, where the forestay goes? I wouldn't want to attach it to the same bracket as the jib.
March wrote:That's what I want to do too. The jib is on a furler, so the other forestay for the genoa would be attached to the front--where the mast goes in the down position.
You'll need a bobstay if you are going to do that.
March wrote:That's what I want to do too. The jib is on a furler, so the other forestay for the genoa would be attached to the front--where the mast goes in the down position.
You'll need a bobstay if you are going to do that.
What is a bobstay, Bill?
I have also been considering a second forestay for a stormsail with the hound at a lower point on the mast in the future. My headsails are already hank-on so the furler is not in the way. Last summer was easily one of the finest sailing seasons in a decade here in the PNW but many times the winds were well in excess of 20 knots and many sailors were more comfortable hanging out at their slips than venturing out there. I really wanted to go a few times but when ever I left the marina to head out I no sooner got a quarter mile out to raise the sails and realized that it is just blowing too hard to use the standard jib so I headed back. Perhaps it is a lack of experience or maybe I just don't trust these little boats in those conditions but I really felt thwarted on those beautifull clear warm sunny summer days when the winds were howling 25-30knot and I was standing there on the outer reaches of the marina gazing longingly at the surf too chicken to venture out. (Others were chicken too!) It is times like that that one starts to contemplate a storm sail, it is not that I will get caught in it, more like I want to challenge it with the right gear.
The original owner i believe used this bow anchor locking brkt on the bow for a second forstay on my boat its on the s/b side of the bowsprit mounting brkt just behind the light plug in this pic I've never used it myself but left it on when I installed my bowsprit figured it will come in handy one day .
I think it was used to fly the jib wing on wing with the genny & mainsail
here's what's in the mods section. the 2nd forestay/furler attaches to the bow pulpit.
looks like he added a turnbuckle from the pulpit to the deck.
i currently have a 2nd halyard fastened in this manner. i use it in lieu of the mast raising system and to provide insurance for furler failure and mast fall while motoring at 20mph.
Bob T.
"DāBob"
'02X w/ '04 90-TLDI (14" x 11 pitch)
Dinghy Motor: '06 2.5-Suzuki
I'd rig straps to go around the furled headsail and clip into the hanks. When you need/want the storm sail, just loop the straps around the furled sail (like a spinnaker tacker), transfer the sheet, and let it go...
This is a storm sail, right? Do you really want to mess with swapping sails in the furler, when you need a storm sail?
March wrote:That's what I want to do too. The jib is on a furler, so the other forestay for the genoa would be attached to the front--where the mast goes in the down position.
You'll need a bobstay if you are going to do that.
What is a bobstay, Bill?
From the stem head, or somewhere on deck, to the bow pulpit, to keep the pulpit from lifting.
This is a storm sail, right? Do you really want to mess with swapping sails in the furler, when you need a storm sail?
My thinking exactly...no you dont.....
I agree!!
If you already have a roller furller and it happens to be a genoa then a second forestay is the way to go. If it could be attached at a lower point on the mast and perhaps 6-12 inches aft of the furler drum somewhere on the deck, perhaps between the hatch and anchor roller, it would create a smaller fore triangle for a storm jib. This sail could also be kept hanked onto the stay (jib halyard attached) and contained in a sumbrella bag with the sheets run through the jib blocks (since they are not in use with a genny) and then run aft to the cockpit and secured somewhere ready for quick use. All one needs to do is furl in the genny, quickly remove the stormsail bag and hoist the storm sail, it could be done quite readily.
This is a storm sail, right? Do you really want to mess with swapping sails in the furler, when you need a storm sail?
My thinking exactly...no you dont.....
I agree!!
... a second forestay is the way to go. If it could be attached at a lower point on the mast and perhaps 6-12 inches aft of the furler drum somewhere on the deck, perhaps between the hatch and anchor roller, it would create a smaller fore triangle for a storm jib. ...
I agree!! (too )
This is even easier for Stephen's 26X (and mine) since the factory has already placed a deck padeye exactly between the Anchor locker and the v-berth hatch. Just guessing, that places the new "inner stay" about 2 feet aft of the forestay. Since the forestay would remain attached, the inner need not be so tightly rigged.
We already use a QR lever for the forestay, and the same could work for the inner stay. But, when stowed at the mast the stay would be too short to reach the deck, needing a pendant to reach the padeye. Assuming one wants the storm jib to fly well-above the deck, the pendant could actually be a mini-vang tackle, with the storm jib hanked above the tackle.
There are archives discussing the same mods. Another benefit of the inner stay ... it can serve as a permanent "mast raising" line, with improved leverage.
and ordering a jib with hanks...
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