Trailering Issues

[beene]

Thanks Ray

I am looking for a more reusable method.

At the moment I am using a bunch of small bungee cords. As per Bill's recommendations, I pull as much of the loose stuff together as I can and work from the top of the mast. Seems to work pretty good, I feel that I could use another 10 more bungee's though. Handy little things

G

[NiceAft]

beene,

I am not a believer in bungee cords.

The elasticity lessens with age. There is shrinkage, which can allow the metal hook to come off (really dangerous if stretched to much), the metal hooks can become brittle, I just don't like them. Too many things to go wrong.

I owned a furniture trucking company for many years and would not allow them to be used on my trucks (EXPERIENCE DICTATED THIS). I always tied things down with straps.

I like the zip ties because they are cheap and disposable.

For the cost of the bungee cords, I can buy a heck of a lot of bags of zip ties.

Ray

[beene]

You make some very good points Ray.

I have a couple bags already. Some big, some small.

Maybe I'll give them a try this Summer.

Thanks

G

[Frank C]

I like zip-ties too, but I find it a hassle to use them for genuinely temporary applications, such as gathering wires & lines before trailering. Yeah, it's quick to attach them, but you need a wire cutter to remove them. Then too, they amount to some awkward waste products.



Ball Bungees are a good compromise. Reuseable, but they don't have the skin-grabbing hooks. They do expire from UV exposure though ... I need to just convince myself to toss them out after a year or so.

Assuming you don't want to invest in the bag of a hundred, check Home Depot. They offer a plastic jar stuffed with 'em for reasonable price. Get two jars, one with the 6" the other with 9" bungees. Look on their Hardware aisle, same aisle with nuts & bolts.

[Shane]

BWY has some great bungees. They have a cinching clip on one end that 'bites' the loose end of bungee chord that you wrap around what you want to hold. I'll try to attach a pic, so wish me luck (I may be looking for Franks help with this)

BWY Bungees work great on quickly getting sails secured, lashing furling to mast, etc.

I like zip-ties too, but I find it a hassle to use them for genuinely temporary applications, such as gathering wires & lines before trailering. Yeah, it's quick to attach them, but you need a wire cutter to remove them. Then too, they amount to some awkward waste products.

[Frank C]

Shane,
that one req'd just a bit extra. The basic process is to find your photo onLine, Rt-click in the photo, and choose "Copy image address". Then just paste it into a post, and enclose it with the image tags.

Some websites add extra stuff to the end of the image address. You want your photo link to end in the characters .JPG or . BMP or .GIF or .PNG . . . . but your Flickr website adds extra stuff shown below. I simply deleted the extraneous stuff so the ending was JPG, and then enclosed the address within the IMG tags.

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[Duane Dunn, Allegro]

I've used the BWY bungees for 6 years without any failure or problems. I make two turns around the mast and obect(s) being held to the mast. Once you stretch and put the cord in the slot you put the tail through the finger hole and this locks it from slipping loose.

I have a bunch of their earlier shorter thin ones and now a bunch of their longer thick ones. Their completely adjustable length is great, and even if you are loosing elasticity the ability to cinch it tight any where makes up for this.

They are the only thing necessary for completely cleaning up all lines and cables for trailering. When off the mast and out on the water they are great for other uses as well. I have around 18 in all.

No hooks to slip, Nothing to rust, always the right length, no balls to snap and hit you. They're the best boat bungee ever.

[Shane]

Thanks Frank,

I did try doing some quick searches on the topic as I know I've read at least a dozen posts that you or KMC have taken the time to guide others through it, but couldn't find them.

While I'm at it, I know Heath is the big Khuna around here, but in particular I think the helping hands that you and KMC lend to the new/newer members on getting around the board goes along way to setting the colleagial, supportive and lively dynamic around this site.
I know there are many others as well, and a great willingness to share in the joy of sailling, but you guys do a great job of helping to get people over the advanced posting skills around here. Much appreciated.

Regards,
Shane

Shane,
that one req'd just a bit extra. The basic process is to find your photo onLine, Rt-click in the photo, and choose "Copy image address". Then just paste it into a post, and enclose it with the image tags.

Some websites add extra stuff to the end of the image address. You want your photo link to end in the characters .JPG or . BMP or .GIF or .PNG . . . . but your Flickr website adds extra stuff shown below. I simply deleted the extraneous stuff so the ending was JPG, and then enclosed the address within the IMG tags.(Test Rt-clicking on either photo, immediately above, to recognize the process.
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[c130king]

but in particular I think the helping hands that you and KMC lend to the new/newer members on getting around the board goes along way to setting the colleagial, supportive and lively dynamic around this site.

HEAR HEAR!!!!!!!

[beene]

What do you guys think about Velcro Straps?

I was thinking about trying a bunch of those, maybe 12" lengths.

Reusable, lightweight, cheap, strong, long lasting perhaps.

Comments.......

[Shane]

Some velcro is pretty tough and the edges are quite hard. I'd be cautious if chafing is an issue in the application you have in mind.

What do you guys think about Velcro Straps?

I was thinking about trying a bunch of those, maybe 12" lengths.

Reusable, lightweight, cheap, strong, long lasting perhaps.

Comments.......

[deja_vu]

I use a combination of velcro straps and bungee cords. So far the velcros have held up pretty well. I mostly use velcros to hold coiled lines together, and to hold the coiled shrouds to the boat when trailering. No worring about them rusting either. They are a bit more of a pain to remove than a bungee though.

[kmclemore]

but in particular I think the helping hands that you and KMC lend to the new/newer members on getting around the board goes along way to setting the colleagial, supportive and lively dynamic around this site.

HEAR HEAR!!!!!!!

Thanks guys.

Sometimes it's a real job trying to be fair to everyone involved when conflicts arise, but we Mod's are always glad to help when we can.

(Oh, and there's lots more great Moderators... let's not forget the hard work of DLT, Catigale, Mike, SPC Paul & Chip, too!)

[Shane]

Agreed wholeheartedly!
I guess just the dangers of starting to name names. No offense intended anywhere; just appreciation.

Regards,
Shane

(Oh, and there's lots more great Moderators... let's not forget the hard work of DLT, Catigale, Mike, SPC Paul & Chip, too!)

[Night Sailor]

I use both bungees and outdoor grade velcro straps. My only beef with the velcro is that in a stiff wind, the bitter end tends to fly around and stick on itself, so one handed work is sometimes a frustrating experience. I mainly use the velcro for small bundles like rope, water hose, life vests, etc. I use bungees for heavier or much larger objects like tying down the furler to the mast, furling the main to the boom. The advantage to the velcro in most applications is that is not as bulky as bungee and it's fittings, and there is no hardware to break, rust or snag things, and it will never fly loose and put out your eye.