Can I do it wuth a Civic

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Post by Terry »

For those who have not noticed, previous to this weekend the last post was back in June of 2004, over two years ago! I would think by now the transmission has been burned out and towing with the Civic is no longer done. :)
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It USED to be can I (we) do it IN a Civic (more likely VW) :evil:

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Post by kmclemore »

You know, this thread title is just BEGGING for someone to "Dr. Seuss" it with a "Green Eggs and Ham" treatment..... If I could only find a rhyme for "Civic"..... (I would not in a Civic, I would not in a ???...)


Funny stuff (audio file, ~1MB)
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Post by Frank C »

Nope - didn't recall Zoran's post from 2 years back ...
and didn't notice the old thread had been resurrected. (clueless!)
Catigale wrote:IT shouldnt matter if you chock front or rear wheels with this approach of course...and I assume everyone chocks...dont you..?? :) :) :) ...
Nope, never even pondered chocking, and never saw it done ... completely clueless! :|

Agree w/kmc about the Green Eggs 'n Ham.
But even after I spent the time to help the rhyme ...
you'd prolly UpChock at the results .... (yuk-yuk)

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Kevin - - was that Rev. Jackson :?: :?: :?:

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Post by Craig LaForce »

I remember a sat night live skit (or maybe it was Mad TV) a long time ago with Rev Jackson running for president doing the Dr Seuss bit. Funny stuff.
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Yes, indeed, it was Rev. Jesse Jackson... that's a recording of the SNL skit from my copious audio files. I only wish I had the video... all the same, the audio is still hilarious.
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Post by NiceAft »

Has anyone sent a PM to Zoran to see if he ever survived his experiment?

I'm now curious to find out what the end result to this thread is :!:


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Post by Zoran »

Hi everybody,
I did survived as well as my Civic. For a full year all launching was done with a Civic with no problems. Van was broken (fuel pump) and I was lazy to fix it to sell it. I also tested launch ramp in the marina and found out that I can launch but I cannot retrieve, too steep and clutch was burning. On the Vanier Park launch it was done numerous time with no problems whatsoever. Once I saw two guys betting if I will go on the bottom of the bay or broke the Civic. To the disappointment and amazement of both of them I retrieved with no sweat. At the end I fixed and insured my van again to sell it and than started using it for launching because the ramp was bad maintained and due to the sand accumulation it become impossible to launch on tides below 7.5' without ditching a vehicle in the water. I didn't want my new car in the salty ocean and I started retrieving with my Astro. Mind you I am still moving my boat to the work zone and few time borrowed my van to a friends in need (moving time) when I launched and retrieved with Civic. Astro is for sale, anybody interested, new fuel pump, catalytic converter, tuned up, runs great.

Zoran

On edit I went through all posts in the thread and there are very few correct assumption and numerous wrong ones from these that never done it. Truth is that hardest part is start when vehicle starts moving back when you release the brake. What I learn when I started driving many years ago is to use emergency brake when starting uphill. Worked like a charm. The only time I spanned the wheels was the first time (too nervous partially thanks to this thread) and once more when I was retrieving while raining on low tides, too much slime on the ramp.
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Post by NiceAft »

Zoran,

Glad to hear you are still alive.

I have said many times that a good theory can be blown out of the water by simple reality. I still wouldn't do what you did, but sometimes a Mac owner just can't be denied his sailing fix :D


I did learn one thing from this thread: Check the posting dates :wink:


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Hi,
Have been reading this with great interest like most of you. The thing is I have a 26x that is normally towed by a 4x4, which belongs to my mate. I have what's described in the states as a sedan, a VW Passat Sport 2.0 TDI with 140hp with a stated towing capacity of 1600kgs. i think the VW will tow the 26x but will probably encounter some probs with slimy steep slips. I have been thinking because my cars a front wheel drive that if I where to attatch some sort of winch that I could mount to the hitch then once the car was on a 'levelish' grippy part of the slip I could winch the boat to the car. I would be interested in anyexperience.

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Post by Zoran »

About one month ago I was reading car magazine from GB and found out that my Civic is described there as a comfortable family sedan. Here in North America it is considered compact and that is why this board had such reaction on me towing with Civic. To share my experience, my Civic has 1.7 engine and I believe (not sure) about 120HP. I would never tow my boat with this vehicle out of the marina or faster than 15 km/h. Civic is not made for towing. I do not know about your Passat.

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Post by Catigale »

That TDI is going to have better low end torque which will make it easier to tug the X out, even if you let the revs drop low..this is an inherent advantage of diesel engines over petrol engines.

140 HP is enough to tow the boat on flat land, it will be slow in hills though.
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Post by Lease »

Guys,

Got back today from the multihull nationals where I used the MAC as my on-water accommodation and all-round party boat - great regatta by the way.

I tow with a 2.0L Citroen C5 wagon and here is the result:

Total distance 2,000 kms (1,200 miles)

Average speed 88kph (around 50mph), including going through towns, etc. Sat on between 100 -110 most of the way. Most of the trip is along the plateau, with the highest point around 3,500 feet. No real big climbs, but the slowest I got to was around 70kph (40mph).

Average consumption was 14.8 L/100kms (around 19mpg imperial, and 16mpg US).

The car has 101kw, or 133 hp, and weighs just under 1400 kgs (3,000 lbs). The active suspension keeps the ride dead level and really helps on the ramps. I'm yet to experience any slip at all on the way in, or on the way out, though most of our ramps are set at only 5 degrees.

This is not to gainsay the conventional wisdom of might is right, but I am constantly surprised by the way a smart small car can take the sort of stuff that the open road can throw at you.
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