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Garry Hoyt here in his 70s, considered a master of design and forward thinking in the world of sailing. His credits of many great designs have been passed over by some, but They Missed the Boat. Watch his Hoyt jib boom, vang in operation. Praised by many cruisers and sport cruisers as a very worthy investment with amazing utility

My father-in-law has the hoyt boom on his Island Packet 370 and doesn't like the amount of deck space it eats up. Even though he has dinghy davits for longer off shore trips it would be safer to stow his RIB on the foredeck with the hoyt boom there's no room. On the plus side it does seem to work well but I can't imagine needing one on a 28 footer.

[Terry]

TT qoted from the Net:

My advice, for what it is worth, is to go for a design that has been widely proven in the conditions you want to cruise in.

I think they have all been proven here in the Pacific NorthWest as we get many varied conditions in these coastal waters. What amazes me is how many own a boat beyond their needs. Many of the larger motorhomes on water seldom leave the dock and when they do it is just a trip through the Gulf/San Juan Islands or up the coast a ways perhaps Desolation Sound. We are talking 40'+ bluewater boats here and they never see bluewater, just like some 4X4 trucks never leave blacktop. The Mac is a tried and proven design in these parts and they sell well. They may be a bit skinny (I'll never stop whining about it) but they are more than up to the task and I have had a few occassions where that 50HP Honda kept things under control. There are many styles of boats both sail & power that operate in these waters and sometimes sea conditions hold many of them back at the slip, it takes pretty big stuff to hold a Mac back depending on who is at the helm, the skipper will fail before the boat does. I will admit I don't like taking chances but I know the boat is more capable than I am. You really don't need a bluewater cruiser unless you plan on doing bluewater sailing (I still want one though) A proven design will be the one that proves to meet your needs not your wants.

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You need at least 27' to meet TT's criteria for a 3.0 -4.0 ratio The Alerion would have a 3.20 ratio with a 8'6" beam, as it is, it it has a 3.43 ratio. The mac needs a bit more length since it would only make a 2.95 ratio with 8'6" beam.

[Captain Steve]

The Mac fits the bill for us.....I dont know how many times people tell me that this is the first time thaey have seen a sailboat that size here! we can get ina nd have a ball at so many places.

[Highlander]

T.T.

Was going to save your mac videos to my computer for a wee bit of pleasure viewing this winter . But their gone how can I get them now or is it to late

John

[Tiny Tim]

They Theirs produced a nice posting on this thread that included links to videos. The links appear to be broken.

I sure would like to see that video.

[waternwaves]

While in general I love my mac, (as I do all my boats.) terrys comment

it takes pretty big stuff to hold a Mac back depending on who is at the helm, the skipper will fail before the boat does

I have to slightly disagree with here...... I am no ' Blue water sailor" even though I go far enough off the coast of washington and vancouver island to not see land, but I have broken way way to many items of hardware and fiberglass on the mac to even slightly imply that the mac is tougher than its captain. The mac is VERY good at what it does, But no small sailboat (I know this is not going to go over well) is comfortable in 15+ft seas, and 45 kts of wind........and I do mean the small keel boats also. Things break!. the forces are too great, and the weak link will go. I have broken rudder brackets, broken rudders, steering gear cable and box failures, outboard cowls smashed off, centerboard broken against trunk, blown off my dodger, forestay snapped from dipping the mast in the water, torn sails, etc.

And having puked my guts out just from getting sick setting a storm anchor off the bow...

God I love sailing.

I feel very comfortable as long as I have running room, 35 kts of wind is not that bad by itself. however, I have double reef points on my main, (Thanks again to Todd and Cheryl at BWY) but it gets to be a rough ride. and the sound the boat makes is very very strained. And I must be one crappy sailor, becasue in those kind of winds and seas, I can barely get the boat tighter than a broad reach. Too much boat out of the water, and too litle saile after double reefing I guess.

And Every boat made can be knocked down. some just come back up faster than others. (Alright......nuclear detonations under an aircraft carrrier don't count).


Everyone should take the time to look at hobies Tri-foiler video.........mentioned by TT, Anytime you have a sailboat where the captain pilot wears a helmet, or has a plex bubble canopy for protection.....now that is sailing. (and yes I know they had a terrible equipment failure rate) and got the crap beat out of them in the surf...
On a narrow mountain lake, with 30kt winds....they were/are absolutely amazing to watch.

They still went like hull under the right conditions, and spawned some incredible design ideas.


Oh well, off to go flush out the little nastys that are blocking most of the flow to the Nissan powerhead............

And as far as a wider boat in a standard shipping container....

If only one was in the container at a time, it could be rotated and loadded on a custom pads, and have up to a 1 ft. wider beam, (yes I got my autocad out to check this. .....

If Roger doesnt go design a 34 footer with a 9 ft beam , I guess I will have to do it myself.... ..

p.s Roger...I am almost done with those drawings......

Actually, I am sure his daughter has looked at this issue.

Or maybe the old plant manager......Tom

or,,,,,,,,,?