Does anyone know the largest trailable sailboat. The one I know is Seaward Eagle 32 RK. It can also go to shallow water, just like the Mac. It will be interesting to know if there is one bigger than this.
http://www.seawardyachts.com/32rk.html?
Largest trailable Sailboat ?
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wiehan
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It's great to know that the Mac 65 is trailable , but can you launch it by yourself like the Seaward 32 and 26X /M? The Hobie 33 is perhaps long enough. But does it have full standing head room, and full head with shower ? Can you live in it in the comfort of your own home like the Seaward 32 ? Thanks for the replies.
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The term "trailerability" has quite a range of definitions. The 32RK must be "trailerable" or they wouldn't offer a trailer (three axles, I note); however at 8300 lbs dry and with a 10'6" beam, that is a serious rig to be hauling down the road. It would require a serious tow vehicle as well, and the 10'6" beam would require special permits in most states.
A mast raising system is offered as well, but with 42' mast I don't imagine anyone will be bragging they can go from the lot to the water in under 15 minutes.
Still, if trailerability is simply the ability to go long distance down the road at reasonable speed, this certainly qualifies.
A mast raising system is offered as well, but with 42' mast I don't imagine anyone will be bragging they can go from the lot to the water in under 15 minutes.
Still, if trailerability is simply the ability to go long distance down the road at reasonable speed, this certainly qualifies.
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A better question to me would be what would be the largest sailboat, that can trailer without permits, with a standard duty pickup/suv (silveraro, f150, explorer, etc), and can be launched single handed at most standard ramps. And lastly a 'reasonable' package price (boat/trailer/sails/motor)
It was satisfaction of ALL (not some of) those above that limited us to the Mac 26. Usually the boat (say Hunter 26) was way too heavy for a standard truck or was too wide to pull without a permit on certain roads, or needed a lot of water to launch.
To me at least, that is kinda the point of having a trailerable sailboat....launch it anywhere. The M has lived up to the launching/trailering concept perfectly. I have launched it in little water at low tide.
Paul
It was satisfaction of ALL (not some of) those above that limited us to the Mac 26. Usually the boat (say Hunter 26) was way too heavy for a standard truck or was too wide to pull without a permit on certain roads, or needed a lot of water to launch.
To me at least, that is kinda the point of having a trailerable sailboat....launch it anywhere. The M has lived up to the launching/trailering concept perfectly. I have launched it in little water at low tide.
Paul
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Re: Largest trailable Sailboat ?
That seward looks real cool! I like how the rudders raise like the daggerboard in the M.wiehan wrote:Does anyone know the largest trailable sailboat. The one I know is Seaward Eagle 32 RK. It can also go to shallow water, just like the Mac. It will be interesting to know if there is one bigger than this.
http://www.seawardyachts.com/32rk.html?
Any idea on cost of their 26? Couldn't find anything on their site. Actually kind of like the rudder idea instead of the wheel...seems like a simpler solution than the linkage on the Mac.
scratch that..found a PS article (april 1, 2005) look like the 26 is about 30K, with trailer,motor, etc about $50K. Out of the running for $$. But looks like a super alternative to the Mac
I'm impressed!
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IMHO--I think the Mac is a great "all around" family boat...simple, light, and easily manageable by the week--end sailor, or the experienced. I hope Roger MacGregor continues to keep it simple. 26 feet of boat is perfect for 2 folks overnighting, and nice for "day sailing" with 4 adults and a couple of kids and a dog or two...I'm sold on the water ballast system, and a floatable safe sail boat.
...and real nice for fishing too
...and real nice for fishing too
Seaward 26rk and 332rk
I just got the information on the Seaward this morning. The base price on the 26 RK is $36,000. Options: Trailer - $4,700; Motor $8,800 or $11,000 depending on size. An outboard option is available; then, +++. Just picking through some of the options I might want I came to a total of $56,600 for the 26 RK. Add 6.5% sales tax of $3,679 = $60,279 plus commissioning cost and other fees? and there you have it.
The base price on the 32 RK is $119,000; Trailer - $8,000; It comes with a Yanmar diesel, 3YM30 28hp, heat exchanger cooled; then add the options. I didn't bother.
Looks like nice boats.
Also, I still like the Mast (Odin) 28. Brand new on that one I think is around $60,000 or so.
For the money, the Mac continues to look real good.
jda
The base price on the 32 RK is $119,000; Trailer - $8,000; It comes with a Yanmar diesel, 3YM30 28hp, heat exchanger cooled; then add the options. I didn't bother.
Looks like nice boats.
Also, I still like the Mast (Odin) 28. Brand new on that one I think is around $60,000 or so.
For the money, the Mac continues to look real good.
jda
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Re: Seaward 26rk and 332rk
Considering the equipment, standard and optional..it is probably on-par with the 26M for 'value' You get more with the 26RK, but you pay more.jda wrote:I just got the information on the Seaward this morning. The base price on the 26 RK is $36,000. Options: Trailer - $4,700; Motor $8,800 or $11,000 depending on size. An outboard option is available; then, +++. Just picking through some of the options I might want I came to a total of $56,600 for the 26 RK. Add 6.5% sales tax of $3,679 = $60,279 plus commissioning cost and other fees? and there you have it.
The base price on the 32 RK is $119,000; Trailer - $8,000; It comes with a Yanmar diesel, 3YM30 28hp, heat exchanger cooled; then add the options. I didn't bother.
Looks like nice boats.
Also, I still like the Mast (Odin) 28. Brand new on that one I think is around $60,000 or so.
For the money, the Mac continues to look real good.
jda
The M still is our choice..but if more funding was available..I would look at the 26RK
Paul
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Only four posts, one of them completely irrelevant, until the original question, "What is the largest trailerable?" is so badly hijacked that the consensus answer apears to be "What a great boat the Mac26 is."
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Largest Trailerable
So far the Hobie 33 appears to be in the lead, only eight feet wide and 4000 lbs.
Boat Specs
The Hobie 33 is a highly competitive one-design / PHRF ULDB racer . Easily trailerable with a retractable keel and deck-stepped mast.
Back in production from:
Spartan Marine
Robbie Roberson
robbie54@cox.net
ph: 949-632-2949
Boat Specs:
LOA: 33.0'
LWL: 30.5'
Beam: 8.0'
Draft: 5.5'
Disp: 4,000 lbs.
SA: 429 sq. ft.
I = 33.83'
J = 12.4'
P = 35.0'
E = 12.5'
ISP = 36.25'
JSP = 13.125'
Note: All dimensions are shown in feet and decimal feet.
New Hobe 33's go for around $55,000 while old ones go for $15-25,000. It is a skinny boat for 33' but I bet it is pretty fast, might be a nice toy.
Boat Specs
The Hobie 33 is a highly competitive one-design / PHRF ULDB racer . Easily trailerable with a retractable keel and deck-stepped mast.
Back in production from:
Spartan Marine
Robbie Roberson
robbie54@cox.net
ph: 949-632-2949
Boat Specs:
LOA: 33.0'
LWL: 30.5'
Beam: 8.0'
Draft: 5.5'
Disp: 4,000 lbs.
SA: 429 sq. ft.
I = 33.83'
J = 12.4'
P = 35.0'
E = 12.5'
ISP = 36.25'
JSP = 13.125'
Note: All dimensions are shown in feet and decimal feet.
New Hobe 33's go for around $55,000 while old ones go for $15-25,000. It is a skinny boat for 33' but I bet it is pretty fast, might be a nice toy.
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THE ILLUSION is a 12'6" America's Cup 12-meter
Date: 2006-02-20, 5:32PM PST
THE ILLUSION is a 12'6" single-handed version of the famous America's Cup 12-meter racing yachts. The boat has a furling jib sail and main sail. As originally equipped the boat also flew a spinnaker but I do not have the sail. Originally the boat was set up with foot pedals to control the rudder but has been modified to use a small steering wheel. I still have the original foot pedal set up if you care to put it back to the way it was. Both sails are in good condition. The jib furler was recently replaced. Overall the hull is in good condition with a few nicks and scratches here and there. The trailer is in good condition and comes with an attached spare tire.
This is a fun boat to sail, it is fast and extremely responsive. I have sailed it solo and with my girlfriend. It is cozy with two people and perfect with one.
The boat comes ready to sail and I have current registration for both boat and trailer and I have the boat title.
Date: 2006-02-20, 5:32PM PST
THE ILLUSION is a 12'6" single-handed version of the famous America's Cup 12-meter racing yachts. The boat has a furling jib sail and main sail. As originally equipped the boat also flew a spinnaker but I do not have the sail. Originally the boat was set up with foot pedals to control the rudder but has been modified to use a small steering wheel. I still have the original foot pedal set up if you care to put it back to the way it was. Both sails are in good condition. The jib furler was recently replaced. Overall the hull is in good condition with a few nicks and scratches here and there. The trailer is in good condition and comes with an attached spare tire.
This is a fun boat to sail, it is fast and extremely responsive. I have sailed it solo and with my girlfriend. It is cozy with two people and perfect with one.
The boat comes ready to sail and I have current registration for both boat and trailer and I have the boat title.
The Hobie 33 is the largest trailerable currently available on the market. It is no cruiser though. It is a rocket. The cabin below is real spartan and you get sitting headroom at best. I have heard the cabin nicknamed the plastic casket.
If you are willing to accept something with a little age on it, Clipper Marine had the bragging right rights for the biggest boat on a trailer. She was 32' with an 8' beam. Came in a sloop ir ketch rig. I guess you could technically call her a trailer sailer because she was able to get on one. But if I recall, she had a schoal draft keel. There are still plenty of them around. Mostly in California. Seems like the average pice is running about $10 grand. Not bad considering the boat was $16,000 new 30 years ago.
The software industry back in the 80's used to have a term for new applications that were supposedly just about to be released and never did. Think it was vaporware. For some reason, you see the same thing in this market. I keep hearing that tooling has begun on a 28 footer that will be built in New Zealand and shipped to the ststes in containes like the Mac. 28', 8.25 beam, 2' draft with keel up, displacement around 4400 lbs., 6' standing headroom. Boat is supposedly going to be priced somewhere under $35,000 US and Hull#1 will be available within 6 months. Don't like even bringing up the subject, but have heard this from two people and one lives there. Haven't been able to find out anything on the web. But wouldn't mind seeing this thing if it exists.
If you are willing to accept something with a little age on it, Clipper Marine had the bragging right rights for the biggest boat on a trailer. She was 32' with an 8' beam. Came in a sloop ir ketch rig. I guess you could technically call her a trailer sailer because she was able to get on one. But if I recall, she had a schoal draft keel. There are still plenty of them around. Mostly in California. Seems like the average pice is running about $10 grand. Not bad considering the boat was $16,000 new 30 years ago.
The software industry back in the 80's used to have a term for new applications that were supposedly just about to be released and never did. Think it was vaporware. For some reason, you see the same thing in this market. I keep hearing that tooling has begun on a 28 footer that will be built in New Zealand and shipped to the ststes in containes like the Mac. 28', 8.25 beam, 2' draft with keel up, displacement around 4400 lbs., 6' standing headroom. Boat is supposedly going to be priced somewhere under $35,000 US and Hull#1 will be available within 6 months. Don't like even bringing up the subject, but have heard this from two people and one lives there. Haven't been able to find out anything on the web. But wouldn't mind seeing this thing if it exists.