Refurbish a 96 Foot Yellow Submarine Anyone?

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Refurbish a 96 Foot Yellow Submarine Anyone?

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Hi All!

I continue to be amazed at the things one can find in Florida!!! :D :D :D
https://wsvn.com/news/local/florida/aba ... -marathon/
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Seems like a potential off season refurbishment project for someone….. :D :D :D

Why/How someone would / could build a 96 Foot long submarine and then abandon it evades me… :D :D :D
My Admiral has reminded me that I know I have a list of projects that need doing so I’ll have to pass on this one …. But maybe someone else on the forum is looking for something to do??? :D :D :D

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Re: Anyone want to refurbish a 96 Foot Submarine?

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I'm thinking .. I'm thinking ... :P
OverEasy wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:34 am Hi All!

I continue to be amazed at the things one can find in Florida!!! :D :D :D
https://wsvn.com/news/local/florida/aba ... -marathon/
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Seems like a potential off season refurbishment project for someone….. :D :D :D

Why/How someone would / could build a 96 Foot long submarine and then abandon it evades me… :D :D :D
My Admiral has reminded me that I know I have a list of projects that need doing so I’ll have to pass on this one …. But maybe someone else on the forum is looking for something to do??? :D :D :D

Best Regards,
Over Easy 8) 8)
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Creepy to see old Hurricane destroyed boats sunk in the keys.

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Hi Russ!

Yeah that’s sorta creepy…. But then it’s the remnants that have been lost and abandoned.
It’s a shame but I’m sorta glad someone is trying to salvage something useful (at least to them) amongst the wreckage as it will all eventually go to some sort of land fill.
It’s been a long time since Irma hit so there’s been plenty of time for the owners to do what they wanted with what was left.
Just a shame on so many levels to be honest. Then, now, and future.

Thanks for sharing this!

I’d love to know more about that submarine.
There’s a story there.
No one builds a thing that big without some sort of history behind it.
That was a LOT of effort, thought, and resources put into it.
There’s jus gotta be a good story there!

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Abandoned boats in Florida seem to be a big problem.

More.

From 2008
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/200 ... 606874007/

2025
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 617147007/
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Wow Russ!

Thank you!
That was some detective work involved to find this background!

I knew there had to be a story… it’s a sad one of ambitions exceeding capabilities and resources. Unfortunately it isn’t all that uncommon. History is littered with numerous stories like this.

Seems all he ever really got to do was with it was drag it into the swamp and give it a paint job from what the articles presented. Probably just as well as a nearly 100 foot submarine isn’t something to be undertaken casually. Especially if its intent is to carry passengers. It looks like it started life as a propane tank which would require extensive internal structure that would more than double or triple the base cylinder weight. Then there would be all the life support, propulsion, ballasting, power, communication ballast and much more. Just having a shell isn’t a submarine. He’d have been better off making it into an on shore “escape room” pseudo sub or similar venue… maybe right up a set of remote control mini sun cameras and project the images on fake portals while the participants play their game.

That way it’s just a stage prop with heating, air conditioning and exit doors… maybe just skip the big cylinder and just rent commercial space for it… :D :D :wink: :wink: … better chance of success, profit and fun.

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OverEasy wrote: Wed Aug 13, 2025 10:10 pm
Seems all he ever really got to do was with it was drag it into the swamp and give it a paint job from what the articles presented. Probably just as well as a nearly 100 foot submarine isn’t something to be undertaken casually. Especially if its intent is to carry passengers. It looks like it started life as a propane tank which would require extensive internal structure that would more than double or triple the base cylinder weight. Then there would be all the life support, propulsion, ballasting, power, communication ballast and much more. Just having a shell isn’t a submarine. He’d have been better off making it into an on shore “escape room” pseudo sub or similar venue… maybe right up a set of remote control mini sun cameras and project the images on fake portals while the participants play their game.

That way it’s just a stage prop with heating, air conditioning and exit doors… maybe just skip the big cylinder and just rent commercial space for it… :D :D :wink: :wink: … better chance of success, profit and fun.
Agreed.

The effort/cost to make it a commercial vehicle would be enormous. Coast Guard certs, mechanicals, life support and much more.

We did one of those "submarine tours" in the Bahamas, and it really wasn't a submarine. It was really a boat with lots of windows below the waterline, touring some coral reefs.

His idea:

"Shelton's sub will have no windows. Instead, he plans to mount cameras on the outside of the vessel and beam those images to flat-screen TVs inside the giant tube."

What's the point if it's all on TV? Like you said, set up in a warehouse and pretend the same thing.

Obviously this is another "Florida Man" story of a guy with a pipe dream and just enough money to start it.
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Hi Russ!

In my much much younger years of Middle School and early High School I had a notebook of “ideas” that I scribbled in of projects that I’d think oot on paper as there wasn’t an ice cubes chance on a hot summers day of ever building. But paper and pencils were cheap so I doodled, and sketched up ideas that I’d then read up on potential problems and modify the doodles. One of those doodles was a one person wet/dry submarine. After figuring out how much pressure built up and how quickly that pressure increased with depth the technical challenges and costs of a dry sub became quite evident. I even got around to figuring out the estimated “crush” depth of a coffee can and tested it out on a deep lake one summer by lowering it on the end of a string. It took a couple tries but seeing that collapsed can really impressed me! Ouch! :D :D I repeated the experiment with another can but with a deliberate dent and found out that even a small flaw dramatically reduced the depth at which the can imploded. Kind of an eye opener as to the risks involved in a dry sub.

Not entertaining the concept of becoming ‘squished’ I changed tactics and looked into something slightly less lethal in the form of a wet/dry submarine…basically an upside-down bucket. While the trapped airspace would become increasingly pressurized with depth it’s structure was virtually impossible to collapse even with increasingly egregious precondition damages to it. So it basically was limited to the same limitations as a scuba diver would contend with. Much simpler and safer from a structural perspective.

I further evolved the designs to make it into what we now call a cabled ROV skipping the human risk factor entirely by incorporating multi axis sonar and cameras. The technology of the time back then was crude by today’s standards but the concepts and progression of designs along with the design notes annotating the logic were validated by my namesake adopted uncle who was a technical engineering professor when he came across my notebook back in the day. He spent several days going over it making notes in the margins of various aspects and potentially improved means to analyze my designs. He was really happy about it all and a real encouragement. (I still miss him….).

But all that was just the musings of a kid… an adult with a purported science background should have done his homework first and recognized the enormity of what would be entailed in even the concept of a nearly 100 ft long underwater vessel before buying anything.
Just a long term waste of time and resources otherwise.

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