Spring Check List —> New Extinguisher Requirements

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Spring Check List —> New Extinguisher Requirements

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Hi All!

Getting ready for Spring! Yippie! :D :D
Part of that is going through all the annual paperwork as well as making preparations for the physical stuff to be done ( once it warms up enough to feel my fingers without artic mittens.. :D :D )

One item that came up was when we were recently made aware of new fire extinguisher requirements that go into effect in April 2022.
It seems that our two existing extinguishers are right at the edge of those requirements this year. So we’re going ahead and upgrading to the new regulations with a pair of new 10 lb ABC Class units.

BoatUS: New U.S. Coast Guard Fire Extinguisher Regulation Effective April 20
12 year expiration for disposables and different carriage requirements for older, newer model
https://www.boatus.com/news-room/releas ... nguisher-r
That’s because a new U.S. Coast Guard regulation beginning April 20 for disposable fire extinguishers mandates a 12-year expiration date from the date of manufacture. Boaters can find the manufacture date stamped into the bottom of the bottle or near the UL label. This may be two or four digits — if it is two, as in 08, that means 2008. Additionally, while the new regulation does not change the type (U.S. Coast Guard-rated) or quantity or requirement for USCG approved fire extinguishers aboard, it does specify the minimum Underwriter Laboratory (UL) classification of extinguishers to be carried aboard certain vessels — depending on the boat’s model year.

This is the result of phasing out older “B-I” and “B-II” labels for newer “5-B” “10-B” and “20-B” extinguisher classifications. The number in this new rating refers to the size in square feet of the potential fire the device is suitable to extinguish and not the exact weight of the dry chemical inside the bottle.
For boats 26 feet or greater, however, having one “10-B” aboard does not equal two 5-Bs. Only a “20-B” classification meets the requirement to carry two “5-B” extinguishers. For a look at how many and what type of fire extinguishers are needed aboard all recreational boats up to 65 feet, go to BoatUS.org/Fire-Extinguishers.

BoatUS strongly recommends going beyond the regulation’s minimum requirements. The results from a Foundation-sponsored boat burn showed that one extinguisher may give very little time to make an emergency call or potentially prepare to abandon your vessel.

BoatUS also notes that most U.S. Coast Guard disposables on the market today carry at least a dual B:C rating, able to douse both liquids and electrical fires, and some boat owners wisely prefer triple rated A:B:C extinguishers, adding a third protection for combustible fires.

To be serviceable, a portable extinguisher must have a pressure gauge indicating an operable range, lock pin firmly installed, clean discharge nozzle, and no significant corrosion or damage. Some more recently manufactured portable fire extinguishers aboard boats today may carry both old and new labeling, for example, having simultaneous “B-I” and “5-B” classifications.
Any time I’ve replaced expiring fire extinguishers I’ve taken it as an opportunity to have family and friends practice the safe and proper operation of an extinguisher in a safe controlled environment. (Especially if I can get one of our local Fire Department personnel involved. This time we are going to try and get our USCG and or local Maritime Fire personnel involved.) It’s a great opportunity to make sure they are prepared, knowing what to expect and what the extinguishers capabilities are well before there is a crisis.

Part of this is finding new mounting locations for the new 10 lb extinguishers…. It would be nice to know of where others on the forum have found to mount theirs. Any ideas/examples?

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Thanks. I had not seen that yet.
Just a reminder: Our 26 models are 25' 10"" so they don't fall under the 26' and larger requirements.
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Good information!


Thanks for sharing.
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The 5,10,20 number on the new fire extinguisher regulations refers to the square feet of fire the extinguisher will extinguish. Not the weight. A 5B extinguisher will put out 5 square feet of Class B fire. Thanks for the heads up Over Easy.
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Just a reminder: Our 26 models are 25' 10"" so they don't fall under the 26' and larger requirements
.

We all have outboard motors. Many marinas figure in the motor when it comes to computing the length of the boat when figuring a dock charge; does the Coast Guard do the same❓
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NiceAft wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:20 am
Just a reminder: Our 26 models are 25' 10"" so they don't fall under the 26' and larger requirements
.

We all have outboard motors. Many marinas figure in the motor when it comes to computing the length of the boat when figuring a dock charge; does the Coast Guard do the same❓
LENGTH (L) is the horizontal distance between the outboard side of the foremost part (bow) of the hull and the
outboard side of the aftermost part (stern) of the hull. It does not include bowsprits, rudders, outboard motor
brackets, swim platforms that do not contain buoyant volume, and other similar fittings and attachments that are
not part of the buoyant hull envelope.

(From https://homeport.uscg.mil/Lists/Content ... G-5397.pdf)
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Hi Ris!

Good catch Ris!
My mistake on the number designations!
Thank you!

Still looking for good suggestions for mounting locations…..

Someplace accessible but not “painfully” in the way.

Previously we had one mounted on the aft face of the aft dinette bench of our Mac26X. While readily accessible it was always in the way, catching clothes, shins, and whatever else it could. :| :x :cry: So that didn’t work….

We also tried mounting it to the ‘column’ between the windows on the galley side. That sort of worked up until we actually started using the galley and did our galley mod. Then that location didn’t work at all as it was always in the way and near a heat source (our induction cooktop).Fribble……

There has to be a better way….

Out in the cockpit the options are limited.
Contemplating modification to the pedestal plexiglass side panel to make it into a door and placing one of the extinguishers inside. Problem then is which side (fore/aft) to put the hinge as access opening is limited to about 60 degrees before it bangs into the bench…

Figure we aren’t the first to be faced with this dilemma …. Suggestions?

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This works for me. Accessible from the cockpit or the cabin.
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Our extinguisher was mounted in that same location when we bought our boat. It is for sure a good place as it is accessible from cabin or cockpit.
West Marine has a sale on 2 of the 110 B extinguishers. This extinguisher also puts out paper/wood fires along with the B and C type fires. https://www.westmarine.com/buy/kidde--m ... ecordNum=4
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Mine is ABC (noticed when I checked the manufacture date yesterday :) ).

This location (on the X) has the advantage of easy access to tighten up the nuts since the bolts come through into the corner of the head.
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My company had a three story warehouse that had two dry chemical extinguishers on each floor. Every year I had a fire extinguisher company come and check on them. What they did every year was first check to see what the gauge indicated. The next thing they did was hit each extinguisher with a rubber mallet. They explained that a dry chemical extinguisher’s content will settle, so each year they banged the plastic container with a mallet. I have been doing that also, every year.

I no longer have the warehouse (retired), but I follow their technique. Rubber mallet gently tapping all sides while holding the extinguisher in different positions.
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