2014 Ram Laramie 3.0L Diesel 1/4 Mile/0-60?

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Re: 2014 Ram Laramie 3.0L Diesel 1/4 Mile/0-60?

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DEF is not a big deal, and I actually really appreciate the diesel not being sooty and stinky. The dealership usually changes it but you can run out between services if you're doing a lot of towing. Then you find out how much cheaper it is at a truck stop than at the dealership.

On the Benz GL they replaced the spare tire with the DEF tank, which means you run giant SUV run-flats that are expensive as hull and hard to find anywhere. My last set was $2000 for all four corners. With a pickup I'm sure you won't have that problem.
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mastreb wrote:On the Benz GL they replaced the spare tire with the DEF tank, which means you run giant SUV run-flats that are expensive as hull and hard to find anywhere. My last set was $2000 for all four corners. With a pickup I'm sure you won't have that problem.
Dang I hope not I thought my big meats I put on my highly modified 2003 Jeep TJ Rubicon were expensive for rock crawling at $300 a piece. I hope at $2000 that is just another one of those crazy foreign things.
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This one is a Quad Cab and not the bigger Crew like mine will be and it is not towing anything but is a good bench mark for the 0-60 times to reference off. According to numerous reviews this is now the quietest 1/2 ton truck you can get and from the lack of sound in the video I believe them.

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I love my dodge 3500 .I wish I had 2 wheel drive .but with 4x4 it gets over 16 MPG towing .and you dont know its behind you ...I have never had a problem with any cummins .
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the mighty dodge ram cummins is in an entirely different class when it comes to tow vehicles. no suv, car, or crossover can even begin to approach its towing abilities. unfortunately the new ram half-ton is not a cummins diesel motor its a v-6 Italian motor made by motori who supplies fiat with motors.
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raycarlson wrote:the mighty dodge ram cummins is in an entirely different class when it comes to tow vehicles. no suv, car, or crossover can even begin to approach its towing abilities. unfortunately the new ram half-ton is not a cummins diesel motor its a v-6 Italian motor made by motori who supplies fiat with motors.
That is because it is an 1/2 ton not a 3/4 or above. The engine was originally designed for Cadillac until the 2007 crash and in such has unique technology in it so it still out performs the 5.7L Hemi. Since Chrysler concord FIAT just like Americans concord America that makes it American by being concord :) . It is not designed by size or weight to pull 30,000lbs. Anything on a 1/2 Ton frame, drivetrain, or suspension could not handle that much power it is designed for the excellent torque and power in its class with the absolute best MPG you can get in a 1/2 ton period. Funny thing is Cummins designed a 5.0L V-8 diesel for this truck and Ram said no because it still did not get the MPG it wanted. Now guess who is picking up the 5.0L Cummins :?: Try the 2015 Nissan Titan. So we will soon have two diesels in the 1/2 ton category. The American made Ram with a Italian engine and the Japanese truck with an American engine; now that is the meaning of globalization.
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Maybe three: Rumor has it that Toyota failed to develop an in-house diesel and will be sourcing the same Cummins 5L for the Tundra in order to meet fleet CAFE standards.
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mastreb wrote:Maybe three: Rumor has it that Toyota failed to develop an in-house diesel and will be sourcing the same Cummins 5L for the Tundra in order to meet fleet CAFE standards.
Excellent more diesels the better. Aftermarket companies go after where the money is. Being a Jeep TJ Rubicon owner I can testify to that. Anyone who make anything for a 4WD vehicle will make it for Jeep first because of the popularity of the vehicle and that popularity equates to money and cheaper price for the same part compared to any other vehicle for the same part. Now that being said Ram still will be ahead in that cafe compared to Nissan and Tundra and here is why.

Like the old saying goes it is not the size of the dog in the fight but the amount of fight in the dog. The Cummins V8 will kick out 300HP and mid 500 Ft lbs of torque compared to the ram 240 HP and 420 Ft lbs of torque. Now just looking at those numbers you would think Cummins is the clear fighting champion how ever as another saying goes it is not the size of the you no what but how you use it. Ram uses theirs to a 8 speed transmission that beats anyones low and high gear ratios equating to ranges that handle every situation you can think of plus adding even better MPG to an engine on its own has better MPG than any gas or diesel in its class. On top of that the convenience that no one else has of air suspension that keep the vehicle level no matter what, and lowers it above 60 MPH to further increase MPG. Competition is still sitting on its lownes just like Detroit did in the 1970s and early 1980s against the Japan invasion. Now situation is 180 degrees as far as trucks are concerned the other way, God Bless America.
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I'm pretty sure Ram's are no longer an American made truck, their an Italian corp.(Fiat), with a few American made parts and engineering, but most parts are made in mexico and they are all built in mexico. Not really to much American about them anymore, but I will say my 05 which is a Mexican truck is the best built truck I've ever owned as far as quality and reliability goes.
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How do the similar SUVs compare, if you know? I'm due for a new tow beast in the fall (lease will be up on the Highlander - sorry, John :wink: ), and something a bit heavier but not too expensive is what I really need. Like a Durango.

Maybe. Jury is still out on Chrysler products, as I've had a bad taste from them that goes back decades. :|
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raycarlson wrote:I'm pretty sure Ram's are no longer an American made truck, their an Italian corp.(Fiat), with a few American made parts and engineering, but most parts are made in mexico and they are all built in mexico. Not really to much American about them anymore, but I will say my 05 which is a Mexican truck is the best built truck I've ever owned as far as quality and reliability goes.
We don't make hardly anything in this country anymore. My Jeep, which was made during the Chrysler/Daimler years, is an amalgamation of parts from Chrysler, Mercedes and probably some leftover AMC bits. Factoid about this topic: there is more domestically produced parts in a Honda Goldwing than there is in a Harley-Davidson.

I'm actually a little surprised that Tattoo set up shop in Florida. It would have been more common if they set up an office in Fl, and a factory in Guanxi.
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raycarlson wrote:I'm pretty sure Ram's are no longer an American made truck, their an Italian corp.(Fiat), with a few American made parts and engineering, but most parts are made in mexico and they are all built in mexico. Not really to much American about them anymore, but I will say my 05 which is a Mexican truck is the best built truck I've ever owned as far as quality and reliability goes.
My Ram probably has some foreign parts here and there but it is being assembled in Warren Michigan. There is nothing wrong to get parts here and there to get the best part for the best truck.
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Tomfoolery wrote:How do the similar SUVs compare, if you know? I'm due for a new tow beast in the fall (lease will be up on the Highlander - sorry, John :wink: ), and something a bit heavier but not too expensive is what I really need. Like a Durango.

Maybe. Jury is still out on Chrysler products, as I've had a bad taste from them that goes back decades. :|
Currently if you want an SUV with the same 3.0L Diesel, 8 Speed Transmission, Air Suspension, and even better 4 wheel drive system and capabilities but can't haul and tow like a pickup but will have no trouble with towing any Mac, there is only one. Jeep Grand Cherokee. I have never had issues with Chrysler products from a 1974 D100 318 three on a tree truck of my youth to my 2003 TJ Rubicon made and assembled in America in Louisiana to be exact. It does have a Japanese Air Lockers though which just broke due too many performance mods to the vehicle and numerous Rock-crawling adventures.Time to upgrade again :) .
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We finally decided to get away from the SUV market (went through 3) With the new crew cabs on pickups they have an incredible amount of cab room and we can still throw dirty or bulky items in without messing up the interior or tearing the headliner (mast raising system was bad for that). Coupled with three box sizes and throw on a canopy and voila. SUV you can pressure wash out the cargo area. And with generally higher towing ratings it was a clear choice for us. But to each his own
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Just to be clear - the US is the #3 manufacturing country in the world right now. Further, many companies are figuring out that "outsourcing" is not working out so well. :wink:
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raycarlson wrote:I'm pretty sure Ram's are no longer an American made truck, their an Italian corp.(Fiat), with a few American made parts and engineering, but most parts are made in mexico and they are all built in mexico. Not really to much American about them anymore, but I will say my 05 which is a Mexican truck is the best built truck I've ever owned as far as quality and reliability goes.
We don't make hardly anything in this country anymore. My Jeep, which was made during the Chrysler/Daimler years, is an amalgamation of parts from Chrysler, Mercedes and probably some leftover AMC bits. Factoid about this topic: there is more domestically produced parts in a Honda Goldwing than there is in a Harley-Davidson.

I'm actually a little surprised that Tattoo set up shop in Florida. It would have been more common if they set up an office in Fl, and a factory in Guanxi.
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