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M anchor locker eye/U bolt

Post by Mac26Mpaul »

Cant find anything but a dead mod link from Paul S.

Where in the anchor locker is the best place to put an eye or U bolt? How thick is the glass there? How best to get behind it doing the least damage to the boat?

Any piccies or live mod links would be nice :)

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Re: M anchor locker eye/U bolt

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All depends what you want to attach to the eye bolt. If the anchor, I really doubt you should attach to the anchor locker - that is what the bow cleats are for.
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Re: M anchor locker eye/U bolt

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Its more about having the end of my rode attached to something in case I mess up lose the lot over the bow (like others have)


However yeah, it would be nice to know it was in a position strong enough ( or that I could beef up enough with glass), to cope with taking the weight of the boat if needed.
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Re: M anchor locker eye/U bolt

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It's the old bitter end dilemma...why not leave it tied to the cleat? You might have to file a bit of the fiberglass from the lip of the locker lid where it closes over the line in front.
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Re: M anchor locker eye/U bolt

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My boat is in a pen and both bow cleats have mooring lines attached. Where I sail I can usually pick up a mooring for lunch or overnight. In both cases the anchor bitter end has to be detached to make room for the two mooring lines at to the two bow cleats. When we cast off we reattach the anchor line but I have the same concern as Mac26MPaul that one day me or someone else will forget, we get into trouble and have to deploy the anchor quickly and the whole lot goes overboard. I don't beleive the attachment in the anchor lockers has to take the same loads as the cleats. I would hope that having deployed the full scope of the anchor we would notice their was no attachment to the cleat and then secure it before the line placed under full load ???
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Re: M anchor locker eye/U bolt

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I don't know what they are called, but my front cleats were held on with those expanding "butterfly" nut's I typically see used in drywall. Once I discovered them I quicly replaced them with a backing plate and locknuts. But if you don't have access to the underside of the anchor locker through the V-berth and don't want to make an access panel there, I would think those types of expanding bolts would be sufficient to hold the bitter end of your rode. I had no evidence that my cleats were weak, I just didn't trust them to hold the full weight of the boat permanantly. But if for some reason the boat came uncleated and was being held by that eye in the locker it should hold well enough.

It's not as good as mounting it with bolts and locknuts with a backing plate but it is an option if you don't have access and don't want to cut on the boat. I personally like having the access panel in the V-berth. But I'm the kind of person that would have access panels everywhere in the liner.
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The forward end of the anchor locker would be my choice. It's thick enough to screw a pad eye to. It might not take the boats full weight but will act as a keeper for the end. Locat it under the notch for the line, and secure the line with a stopper knot.
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Re: M anchor locker eye/U bolt

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Great question.
I hate tying the bitter end to a cleat. It takes up a cleat and hangs out. Not pretty enough for my OCD to handle.
This is something I may have to do as well.

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I ran an eye bolt all the way into the cabin , from the bottom of the anchor locker . I then put some fender washers and a nut on it .
I guess more than anything its a last ditch something to keep the boat and anchor together .
When I anchor , I wrap the rode around the cleat then tie it off on the bow rail , but the bitter end is tied to the eye bolt in the bottom of the locker . :macx:
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Mac26Mpaul wrote:Cant find anything but a dead mod link from Paul S.

Where in the anchor locker is the best place to put an eye or U bolt? How thick is the glass there? How best to get behind it doing the least damage to the boat?

Any piccies or live mod links would be nice :)

cheers,
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What am I missing :?: there is a ss u bolt affair in the front of my anchor locker for tying or fixing bitter ends of anchor lines to.
I actually have one tied and the other attached with a D bolt, when anchored of course the lines are tied off to the cleats at appropriate lengths.
Mine was there from the factory, thought they all had one :?:
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Re: M anchor locker eye/U bolt

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Hmmm. Not on my 2010 :macm:
Going to have to add one.
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Re: M anchor locker eye/U bolt

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They are not stock Bob, so someone after the factory has added that. Is there an access hatch forward in your V berth?

I currently run the bitter end with spliced eye back out that anchor locker lid hole and onto a cleat. But it takes up both space on a cleat, and the hole in the anchor locker lid. I don't really want to enlarge that hole and prefer to put an eye or U bolt in. I don't mind cutting an access hole to put a plate at the back, or perhaps beef up an area with glass as I would prefer it be able to take the weight of the boat if ever required.

I know others have done it as remember reading about it years back, but just cant find the posts. I'm sure Paul S did it, but the mod doesn't seem to be on his personal website where he has mods listed. Divecoz also did it. R U guys here?
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Well there was no one adding anything between me and the factory, my boat was purchased direct with the aust agent Synergy at the time acting in this case as an agent between myself, Sharps who exclusively shipped Macs O/S and the factory (only a few shipped this way).
There is a possibility that like a few other items eg stern rails these may have been included in the "Aust package" but sure they weren't mentioned but then some things like the stern rails weren't optional for aust boats, they were just there when Synergy Yachts was involved unless specifically requested they weren't.
If the above is the case it will be another identification point for those bought in through other importers or newer agents, can't see why this wouldn't be included though as it's needed and a bugger to try and get into that space later.
FYI mine is located directly below where the rope /chain access to the locker about halfway down.
Is there an access hatch forward in your V berth?
Not sure what you mean again as they all have an access hatch to the deck above the vee berth? but am seriously considering removing hatch cover on the locker as while there is room for two ropes or a rope with one chain there is no room to put the second anchor and short of making something to hang it outside and below the rail to clear the headsail and spinnaker where it would still be awkward to deploy and retrieve, I would rather just sit it on the ropes etc in the locker and get rid of the silly lid.
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Re: M anchor locker eye/U bolt

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Okay, well my 2007 hull didn't come with one, or stern rail seats unfortunately :(

I'm not talking about the forward hatch. I mean, an access hatch to get underneath the anchor locker.

My boats not here for me to have a looksee, but going off my picture here, I guess I need to remove that bit of carpet up the front there, and cut a hole in there to get up under the anchor locker.

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Whats in behind there, full of packing foam I guess ?


I have my plough resting on the roller, and can throw a sand anchor in the locker when needed.
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Mac26Mpaul wrote:Okay, well my 2007 hull didn't come with one, or stern rail seats unfortunately :(

I'm not talking about the forward hatch. I mean, an access hatch to get underneath the anchor locker.

My boats not here for me to have a looksee, but going off my picture here, I guess I need to remove that bit of carpet up the front there, and cut a hole in there to get up under the anchor locker.

Image

Whats in behind there, full of packing foam I guess ?


I have my plough resting on the roller, and can throw a sand anchor in the locker when needed.
The forward triangle piece comes off with 1 or 2 screws located below cushion level. Once you remove the triangle piece and remove the styrofoam you will have access to the forward wall of your anchor locker where you should be able to make your mods. Of course you will have to learn how to be a contorsionist. :P
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