Garmin data card programmer

[csm]

I have a182C gps, which is about 10 yrs old. Come to find out this is an antique in gps terms In order to run the maps I want, I need to use discontinued chips and programmer. I found a chip on ebay, but have searched the web for hours and can't find the programmer. I need Garmin part # 010-10776-00. If anyone has one they would like to sell, or knows of a source, please let me know.
thanks,
Chris

[March]

I have an 188. f I remember correctly, you can still program the card as it is inserted in the Garmin. You still have to find a proper cable to connect the Garmin to the computer USB which is going to read you Garmin maps (you have it, don't you?). But if you don't have the Garmin cable (which also has to have a power connection, or else you won't be abl;e to fire up the Garmin, I guess that the reader is the cheaper solution
Here's a link to a reader:
http://www.boaterbarn.com/garmin_usb_2. ... 6_prd1.htm

[Divecoz]

I too have a question and a little info on the Gamin 182..
I have 1 ( a 182 C) and my brother has one ( as his 2nd back up, why anyone would want 2 back ups is beyond me ) We found that many of the Gamin's use "The Same Data Card" and when they do, they will often transfer information between themselves. In Fact his and his dive buddies 10" touch screen Gamins use the same cards as my 182.. His 182 will receive info from the bigger newer Garmin's data card , but mine wont.. Does any of the Guru's here have any suggestions as to why mine will not accept the info too?

[csm]

March, thanks for the link, but when you add to cart, they say it is backordered.....typical of my search results.
Divecoz, I'm no guru, but the Garmin tech support folks are very helpful, and easy to reach @ 800 800-1020

[March]

That sucks. You do have the option to call garmin and order a full, pre-loaded chip for the area of your choice. This is what I did with the Apostle Islands chip--around $100.00 or 120.00 if memory serves. The alternative, of course, is to get a CD with BlueCharts (used to be 100 bucks) where you can see the detail of every area on the computer, but when it comes to uploading it on your own chip, you will have only one shot at one area with one electronic key. Then you will have to pay again if you want to upload another one and again. In the long run, it MIGHT be cheaper if you plan to upload area after area, using the same chip, but not by much. BlueCharts

Divecoz: are you sure your 182 softare is updated? Call the Garmins, they will send you a chip with the latest software (or at least that's what they used to do 6 years ago) and refund the price of the chip itself, once you update it and send it back. Updating the soft is easy: you just insert the chip in the expansion slot, and the Garmin does the rest.

[csm]

March, I want to load the uper midwest fighing guide, but it isn't available on the "old" proprietary chip, so my options are buy a new gps unit and an sd card with the lake data OR buy a blank chip, the programmer, and the UMWFG dvd. The max chip size for the 182 is 128mb, and the Garmin tech told me I could load about half of Minnesota on one chip. He mentioned that he thought that the UMWFG would register to one device, but didn't mention about having only one shot per area. I'll have to call them back and confirm how that will work; thanks for pointing that out. That would indeed suck, as I' d probably have to buy many data cards to load the whole dvd.

[yukonbob]

If you plan on buying Blue chart or Blue chart 2 pre loaded cards for an area plan on spending considerably more than a hundred bucks. As march said you can buy the CD but have to pay to up load them to usable chips. When we were trying to buy them for SE Alaska it came in three options N, W and SE sets (as I remember.) The SE covers where we want to sail within AK but stops at the Canadian border. The SE card was close to 500 bucks the west coast of BC was about the same but thankfully the Canadian portion came with the boat. Was a little pricey but worth every penny. Extremely accurate and very detailed down to recorded bottom compositions which is awesome for anchoring

[yukonbob]

Oh and inland lakes are much cheaper because they cover smaller areas

[yukonbob]

For the heck of it I just checked Garmin's website and they offer all of US west coast Canada Alaska and Hawaii for 160. WTF?!? Why did mine cost so dam much? Price can't have some down that much? I Even bought them straight from Garmin? I got screwed

[Divecoz]

It can be very time intensive to consistently get The Best Price.. Often it seems that if there is a MSRP your better shopping around because, the Manufacturer is going to sell for his suggested price. For us I seem to get my best prices on airline tickets , and much better service " should an issue arise" by buying direct. It " seems" to me , the airlines know if you bought direct from them or not..I Have also run into the GREY Market dealer Nightmares as well when getting my best price I even bought some power tools Skill and Dewalt in The USA versus Mexico.. and found that neither of the Mexico service centers would honor either warranty because the unit had been bought in the USA and not at one of their 100% additional Markup outlets..

For the heck of it I just checked Garmin's website and they offer all of US west coast Canada Alaska and Hawaii for 160. WTF?!? Why did mine cost so dam much? Price can't have some down that much? I Even bought them straight from Garmin? I got screwed

[Chinook]

Hi CSM. I have the cable with power plug in which March mentioned. If you're interested in it, send me a PM and I'll make you a deal for it.

[Seapup]

March, I want to load the uper midwest fighing guide, but it isn't available on the "old" proprietary chip, so my options are buy a new gps unit and an sd card with the lake data OR buy a blank chip, the programmer, and the UMWFG dvd. The max chip size for the 182 is 128mb, and the Garmin tech told me I could load about half of Minnesota on one chip. He mentioned that he thought that the UMWFG would register to one device, but didn't mention about having only one shot per area. I'll have to call them back and confirm how that will work; thanks for pointing that out. That would indeed suck, as I' d probably have to buy many data cards to load the whole dvd.

I did something similar to load vision maps from a sd card on to the old style garmin chip. They were so large though I ended up going back to Americas V9.5. Since you are doing everything legally make sure gamin says it is doable with the specific lake SD you want to purchase. The preprogrammed cards can come locked to the SD card ID so as to not be copied. If they are locked you need to use a program to break the mapsets up and assign a new ID if you want to transfer the maps to another card. You can then lock them to your unit ID using mapsource instead of the card ID.

I tried both the vision card for the Chesapeake (1.5 gig) and Americas V9.5 (same area is around 100mb). The actual chart contour lines look the same to me on both versions if you have an older unit. The vision has the satellite pics of ports and 3d bottom data.

You can upload/download/swap maps as many times as you like using mapsource once the map is unlocked on mapsource (or basecamp) to your unit ID.

For the heck of it I just checked Garmin's website and they offer all of US west coast Canada Alaska and Hawaii for 160. WTF?!? Why did mine cost so dam much? Price can't have some down that much? I Even bought them straight from Garmin? I got screwed

You probably bought the vision cards. The G2 maps are similiar to the Americas version (which was flying illegally all over the internet) so they did away with the dvds. The more basic and larger G2 is $160, the G2 vision are a lot more expensive.

[March]

Hey, Yukonbob! Make sure that the format they sell in is compatible with your GPS. Prices vary wildly--the same map in 3d is not compatible with older models--and they tend to be cheaper. Go figure.

I still think that paying up for every damn region is a ripoff in itself: we already paid for the hardware, AND the chip, AND the BlueChart CD itself, etc etc--now you still have to pay for the minute details in each area map? I wouldn't mind paying something like 25 bucks for one, but 100? Come ON. Whereas the NOAA maps which are pretty accurate in themselves are free, as they well should be. Sumner's solution is the most elegant one, but I like to have my maps on the GPS in the cockpit, rather than below deck on the laptop. Nevertheless, when we had both systems up, the Garmin maps didn't show much more than the other maps did--in fact, they sometimes showed even LESS, such as, on the nature preserve around Rubicon keys in Florida Keys

Looks like the "Fishing HotSpots" CD is different from the regular BlueCharts.

[yukonbob]

Ya I've had them for three or four years now. Very very accurate. Maybe the ones they have are a less accurate version as well. Even for what I paid I'm still happy with the purchase.

[csm]

Per Garmin tech support, the UMWFG dvd will resister/ lock to one "device"; he couldn' t say for sure if the device was the pc it was loaded on, the programmer (doubt that) or the gps unit. He also said the 182c was not capable of programming the card via cable, but I have known TS to be less than 100% correct at times.
Chinook, have you used your plug and cable on a 182? If so I'm definitely interested.

Thanks Chris