Daggerboard Damage Advice Please

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Re: Daggerboard Damage Advice Please

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I nailed my daggerboard coming back into the club last week. Hit a rock that I have known about for ever but the water level on the lake is the lowest in years. Can't let my guard down this year. When in doubt, pull her up. Still usable but I am going to get it repaired over the winter. It's not as bad as I have done in the past but the season is still young ;)

On the plus-side, I help push my neighbor in the slip next to me out this weekend as his keel was in the mud. Nice to not have to worry about that happening.

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Gez Guy's
What's Ya all thinking Their suppose to be Daggerboards NOT "Diggerboards "
Anyway's i removed D/B as I noticed some big chunks in it at the top rear edge so i am gonna do the mod that some guys have done with the 1/2 ' tube resined in the top rear two ft I'll have to print it off & get cracking @ it :o or should I refraze that ! :P

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Saturday we were sailing along nice and relaxing when we heard a loud BANG! I'm thinking "We're pretty far from shore, couldn't be a rock." Then thud and the boat suddenly stopped moving. Slowly we starting moving again and I looked back and saw a huge rootball of a tree surface just before our inflatable dink ran it over. Then the rest of the tree floated up. Wow! The lake is 10 miles wide and we found the only tree to hit in the middle of it.

So of course my thought was, "Daggerboard damage". So we lifted it and it seemed okay. Still not sure what it looks like below and I'll have to dive down there the next time I get a chance.

The X centerboard design certainly has its benefits over the dagger.
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There's at least one large tree trunk in Lake Michigan too. :P

Quite a bump - left a dent in the bow - swing keel was fine. 8)
RussMT wrote:Saturday we were sailing along nice and relaxing when we heard a loud BANG! I'm thinking "We're pretty far from shore, couldn't be a rock." Then thud and the boat suddenly stopped moving. Slowly we starting moving again and I looked back and saw a huge rootball of a tree surface just before our inflatable dink ran it over. Then the rest of the tree floated up. Wow! The lake is 10 miles wide and we found the only tree to hit in the middle of it.

So of course my thought was, "Daggerboard damage". So we lifted it and it seemed okay. Still not sure what it looks like below and I'll have to dive down there the next time I get a chance.

The X centerboard design certainly has its benefits over the dagger.
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This tree was floating in 100' of water 2 miles from shore. Nobody expects to hit anything there. 'Course I found it. I wonder what would happen if one of those ski boats caught that thing going 60mph.
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When i see large things floating in the bay or ocean or cape I practice calling in a securite VHF call....or have my young crew do it to learn radio skills
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Catigale wrote:When i see large things floating in the bay or ocean or cape I practice calling in a securite VHF call....or have my young crew do it to learn radio skills
Yup. I considered doing that. It's a good idea. Some yahoo in his ski boat hitting that thing would do some hurtin'. Then I remembered where I was. Nobody here listens to VHF (it's dead all day long) and if they did, wouldn't understand a securite call anyway. There is a Coast Guard auxiliary station that monitors it, but that's about it.

Later that evening we went out for a night sail. Nice wind, clear sky. Came back to our cove around 10:15pm, pretty much dark. After the floating tree incident I noticed something a ways off that looked out of place. Something floating, flat and big. When we got closer I realized it was a ski boat! No running lights pulling a skier! Yes, water skiing in the dark. The skier went down, they circled back somehow and found him. Crazy. Yea, VHF kind of useless with this bunch of yahoos.
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I'm' impressed by your yahoos - our yahoos here run 47 foot boats into breakwaters in broad daylight. 6 people had to be rescued by the USCG at 11 pm that night. :P
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Catigale wrote:When i see large things floating in the bay or ocean or cape I practice calling in a securite VHF call....or have my young crew do it to learn radio skills
Yup. I considered doing that. It's a good idea. Some yahoo in his ski boat hitting that thing would do some hurtin'. Then I remembered where I was. Nobody here listens to VHF (it's dead all day long) and if they did, wouldn't understand a securite call anyway. There is a Coast Guard auxiliary station that monitors it, but that's about it.

Later that evening we went out for a night sail. Nice wind, clear sky. Came back to our cove around 10:15pm, pretty much dark. After the floating tree incident I noticed something a ways off that looked out of place. Something floating, flat and big. When we got closer I realized it was a ski boat! No running lights pulling a skier! Yes, water skiing in the dark. The skier went down, they circled back somehow and found him. Crazy. Yea, VHF kind of useless with this bunch of yahoos.
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RussMT wrote:This tree was floating in 100' of water 2 miles from shore. Nobody expects to hit anything there. 'Course I found it. I wonder what would happen if one of those ski boats caught that thing going 60mph.
So Russ u telling us u have a green thumb !! :P
One time when I was out in the NWP whale watching on a cigar boat we headed outa Victoria BC @ about 55mp/h I was one of the designated log watchers !! seeing I had boating experience :o :P . I was almost going to ask does this get me a free ride :wink:
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Worse than the ski boat hitting a log; the skier hitting a log. When I was a kid we limited our barefoot skiing on the Niagara river to (among other reasons!) reduce the exposure to the dead-head risk. Maybe it was a tall tale, but the rumours were that a barefooter had hit one and ended up paraplegic.

The last thing we saw floating when out last weekend was not so dangerous to hit as a log or a whale, although it did result in a “hit”. It turned out to be a mylar foil party balloon in the middle of Lake Erie. I “had” to call a MOB drill on it (while the ladies giggled “geek’s entertainment” under their breaths). :)

Of course, once we had “rescued” the balloon, it was incumbent on me to perform CPR on the "victim" and inhale a hit of the remaining helium, and pass it around. But the ladies were jokingly afraid of the “potentially radioactive poison balloon” that “floated over from Japan after the earthquake and tsunami”. But no one was killed. :|

Little known fact – the Japanese did, in fact, “bomb”, with some measure of success, the North American mainland during WWII, using balloons launched from Japan. IIRC, no one was killed by that either. :|

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Little known fact – the Japanese did, in fact, “bomb”, with some measure of success, the North American mainland during WWII, using balloons launched from Japan. IIRC, no one was killed by that either.
This was actually the first bio-attack of WWII...the Japanese sent over dead fish attached to balloons trying to contaminate public water supplies , which landed in CA and was promptly turned into the first drive-through sushi bar.....d**** Americans!!!
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I was mistaken! :D Low and behold - they actually killed 6 people (in Oregon) with them thar "fishy" balloons...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon

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Hopefully a final update.

The new daggerboard arrived safely from Blue Water Yachts, it had been well packed in a wooden crate with bubble-wrap so despite traveling half way round the world it arrived with no damage. I keep the boat on a slip so after anti-fouling and as recommended by Calin at high water I tied the same guide lines I used to lower the old daggerboard out on to the new one then dropped the daggerboard in the water next to the boat, let it sink and then using the guidelines I pulled it up into the daggerboard trunk (just took a couple of tweaks on the guide ropes to get it lined up) and then tied off the safety line and daggerboard control line, measured to drop the daggerboard 57" as per the manual. Took about 10 minutes so quite easy and with luck that will be the first and last time I have to do it!

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