Rigging Adjustment Tool

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Michael
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Rigging Adjustment Tool

Post by Michael »

Are you bothered by those pesky loose shrouds and stays with no easy way to correctly tighten them?

Do fellow boaters snicker at how loose those leeward shrouds get when beating to windward?

Do you have sleepless nights thinking about mast metal fatigue as a result of mast pumping caused by under tensioned shrouds and stays while you are leaping waves at 20mph under power?


Well now--for a limited time-- there is a solution to the Loose Rigging Blues

The Ultimate Re-purposed C-Clamp Vice Grip DIY Vernier Rigging Adjustment Tool

No more scrapped knuckles from using one of those cheap two pronged rigging twisters (insert picture here of bleeding knuckles with poorly made homemade 2 prong tool in hand)
No more asking a team of reluctant advisors to assist tensioning the rigging using multiple screwdrivers (insert picture here of a hapless crew with screwdrivers flying overboard trying to pry those channel adjusters correctly while at the same time trying to force a clevis pin in the correct holes.)
Don’t even think of partially lowering the mast to get enough slack in the shrouds to easily tighten them (insert picture here of mast dangling precariously in a semi upright position)
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The solution….All you got to do is run down to your nearest Lowes (currently a clearance item at $14.97) or local hardware store and pick up a pair of Irwin 11 inch C-Clamp Vise Grips (11SP) with pivoting pads. Drill out the rivets that connect the pads (easily done with a hand drill) and replace the rivets without the pads with ¾ inch long screws that protrude about ¼ inch beyond the nut. The set up takes less than 10 minutes.
To use it.... all you do is adjust the wrench for maximum leverage, line up with two free adjusting holes on the stay adjuster and shroud end with the protruding screws and squeeze to a locking position.(flash to audience chiming in with “just set it and forget it”) Insert clevis pin and fastener in a lined up hole.
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No muss, no fuss, no messy cleanup.

Always Remember:
Wear the appropriate safety gear
Use a gauge if you are unsure how much to tighten your rigging
Refer to Roger’s comprehensive section in the manual on tuning your rigging
Use the product at your own risk!
If you are adjusting the rigging while the boat is in the water, a safety line on the tool might prevent a needless swim with goggles.

Don’t be fooled by cheap imitators.

Make your own authentic Ultimate Re-purposed C-Clamp Vice Grip DIY Vernier Rigging Adjustment Tool


Before you know it, your rigging will hum like a Stradivarius playing a Vivaldi concerto.


(Closing shot of perfectly trimmed boat cruising along an idyllic shoreline with crew all waving to the camera)
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Post by Terry »

How about adding a Loos Guage to the mix to get the right amount of tension on those shrouds.
I believe it is 10% of breaking strength on the lowers and 15% on the uppers.
Then of course there is mast rake, just hang a weight off the end of the main halyard and set the forestay so that the halyard and weight are a few inches aft of the mast, then tighten the shrouds. Once your rig is tuned to optimum she will behave under sail better. :wink:
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I know what I'm making this weekend.
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Thanks Michael

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Michael wrote:Are you bothered by those pesky loose shrouds and stays with no easy way to correctly tighten them?

Do fellow boaters snicker at how loose those leeward shrouds get when beating to windward?.........
You really need to get Billy Mays to sell this for you!

Oh... wait...

Nevermind. :wink:
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Post by Matt19020 »

This is from a earlier post of mine:
http://www.macgregorsailors.com/forum/v ... ig#p128575

I must give Bill at Boats 4 Sail credit for this. When we picked our boat up 18 months ago he showed me something he was making to adjust the shrouds on the boat. Since I have not seen this anywhere I will assume that he will not be marketing the idea.
I went out and picked up Vice Grip clamping pliers for about $25 last year and a couple of drill bits to make this device... after a year and about 10+ drill bits I still did not have it made yet (I could not drill through the hardened steel!) I have one hole partially through and the second hole halfway. I went out today to Lowes to buy some more drill bits to finish my project. When I walked over to tools I saw KOBALT locking pliars for $15. These were different... the ends had pop rivited base plates on the jaws. When I looked at it I figured I can easily grind the rivets off and use the existing holes to put my bolts through. 10 minutes after I was home it was made!! The rivets came off easily and it worked perfectly it is a handy tool when short-handed or if you are all thumbs....
It will hold the stays uder tension as you slide the clevis pin in
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Or you can save the time and trouble and order one from our website for $25.00.

We have been making them for years.

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A pair of pointed awls works great, cheaper and can adjust the tension without losing positive connection. By using the awls you never let the stay go, whether loosening or tightening the rigging. The welding clamp thingy looks ok, but you will have to trust its ability ( and momentarily yours ) to maintain full tension and hold up the mast while it is being used, until you re-pin the adjusters.
Seems a real risk that the welding clamp pin that you put into the folded adjuster tang can only go into the hole on one side, and only a short distance until it hits the inner adjuster, in order not to impede the movement of the interior tang adjuster plate. With an unbalanced one side pin grab, it could easily slip or pop out and let the stay go completely. Using the twin awls method, you "awl"-ways have full positive pinning of at least one if not both steel awls each thru at least two of the three lined up holes of both the adjuster parts.
Adjustments with the awls is incremental, one Vernier step each time - that's the best way to fine tune rigging tension.
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Post by jaguar496 »

Terry wrote:How about adding a Loos Guage to the mix to get the right amount of tension on those shrouds.
I believe it is 10% of breaking strength on the lowers and 15% on the uppers.
Then of course there is mast rake, just hang a weight off the end of the main halyard and set the forestay so that the halyard and weight are a few inches aft of the mast, then tighten the shrouds. Once your rig is tuned to optimum she will behave under sail better. :wink:



Hi Terry: WHAT are the Loos numbers for an :macm: ? I called MacGregor, talked with "Mike", and he danced around a number. Just told me to tension the shrouds to a 1"-2" lateral movement and to make sure all rigging was in the same holes. thanks, stew
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Post by c130king »

Stew,

I remember having this same discussion a couple of years ago. Did a search on "Loos tension" and came up with this:

Standing Rigging Tension?

Looks like I tightened mine and came up with just over 200# back then when I was researching this. I could tell they were a good bit tighter. Works great for me. But other :macm: owners have gone even tighter (Delevi is one that comes to mind).

Good luck,
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thanks Jim for the thread. I bought a LOOS, and found that my shrouds are loosE 8) will do the 300# for the uppers, and 250# or so on the lowers. I have no complaints, but this should help with my technique. stew
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Let me know how those numbers work out for you. I might even go a little tighter on my shrouds. Always willing to tweak things a little.

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Post by mattvct »

I made a pair of these and it worked out really well for making the adjustments. One thing I did differently that ended up working extremely well was added an additional washer and nut after inserting the tool through the holes (a wing nut would work better.) This way the tool is held securely to the adjuster and you don't have to worry about it slipping or being too far down the bolt causing it to shear off. It takes a couple extra seconds to attach it, but then you can even let go completely and use two hands putting the pin and retainer back through. If you have it close and you need just a tiny adjustment to get the pin through you still have the option of using an awl in most cases too since there is still some sideways play to work with.
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Post by iamspartacus1 »

OR OR OR you could just take a line from the mid mast to the engine with a tie-down strap with a tensioner on one end, pull the mast back with the tensioner and manually tighten the shrouds. thats what I did and it worked perfectly. front furler spins in and out like a top folks. my work is done here.

PS: it was such a freegin pain to register for this site just to share that gem with you all!
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Post by iamspartacus1 »

OR OR OR you could just take a line from the mid mast to the engine with a tie-down strap with a tensioner on one end, pull the mast back with the tensioner and manually tighten the shrouds. thats what I did and it worked perfectly. front furler spins in and out like a top folks. my work is done here.

PS: it was such a freegin pain to register for this site just to share that gem with you all!
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