at 3 boat bucks its very competitively priced inho
Roller Reefing Main
- bastonjock
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Roller Reefing Main
i see thats MR Inmon has now got an ADvertising banner at the top,so lets find out about the roller reefing main
at 3 boat bucks its very competitively priced inho
at 3 boat bucks its very competitively priced inho
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mikelinmon
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HI,
The roller reefing main is $2,990. We have installed several but on new boats only so far. The problem is some of the boats original parts are used to make the system, hence the price at about half of the other roller furlers. The stock boom is used, boom vang , gooseneck, main sheet system et. all. The new stock mainsail is used; add top batten, replace bottom batten with full length and make other battens level as well as add the sunbrella leach cover which replaces the mainsail cover. There is also shipping! If your boat is older than 4-5 years perhaps a new main might be worth it, then the roller furling mod is reasonable. The cost of a new MacGregor boom is not so much. First thing is to fit one to an X, most of the calls are from 26X owners. First guy with an X to buy one, will be our test boat with free upgrades till we get it right! Needs to be a local boat because if this is like any other mod some original thinking will be wrong! We have now made 8 count them, eight major changes to the 26M's furler.
Mike Inmon
The roller reefing main is $2,990. We have installed several but on new boats only so far. The problem is some of the boats original parts are used to make the system, hence the price at about half of the other roller furlers. The stock boom is used, boom vang , gooseneck, main sheet system et. all. The new stock mainsail is used; add top batten, replace bottom batten with full length and make other battens level as well as add the sunbrella leach cover which replaces the mainsail cover. There is also shipping! If your boat is older than 4-5 years perhaps a new main might be worth it, then the roller furling mod is reasonable. The cost of a new MacGregor boom is not so much. First thing is to fit one to an X, most of the calls are from 26X owners. First guy with an X to buy one, will be our test boat with free upgrades till we get it right! Needs to be a local boat because if this is like any other mod some original thinking will be wrong! We have now made 8 count them, eight major changes to the 26M's furler.
Mike Inmon
- Jim Bunnell
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If you go to his website (as advertised on this site) http://macgregorsailboats.com there is a link to a YouTube clip showing the system in action. Actually there are three clips on YouTube that clump together. Looks good, how hard will it be to retrofit an existing boat?
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Yes, close up pictures would be nice.
Back in the 70s I had a roller furling main boom on a 22' sloop, but it was purely hands on. Had wheel on the end of the end of the boom that you grabbed and rotated the whole shebang after lossening the halyard. This Inmon arrangement with a furling line would be lots better when single handing.
The video is interesting; note no engine on the boat in the video, and how much side slip it has in relatively little wind.
Back in the 70s I had a roller furling main boom on a 22' sloop, but it was purely hands on. Had wheel on the end of the end of the boom that you grabbed and rotated the whole shebang after lossening the halyard. This Inmon arrangement with a furling line would be lots better when single handing.
The video is interesting; note no engine on the boat in the video, and how much side slip it has in relatively little wind.
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The in-boom reefing system I saw at a boat show doesn't use an outhaul, but rather an internal system. You have a drafty position and a flattened position. You must engage the flattened position in order to roll in the sail, so I would think the sail will already be flattened as it's roller-reefed. Roger's system probably uses a similar config, but who knows? I can't see anything from the demo videos except watching a mainsail come down quickly and disapear.
Leon
Leon
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mikelinmon
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No. not sideslip. The boat is turning up into the wind, what little of it there was, and the main is sheeted up a little. This is done to furl the main. Just like any boat, the main is raised or lowered head to wind. Since we don't use a motor usually, you need some way on to be able to turn away from the wind after lowering the main. Close quarters and all, pull the main in, turn up into wind, roll up main, hoist main and you still need just enough way to turn away from head to wind. Just look at some of the other demos on the U-Tube and see when boat is moving, no side slip.
Now, as to need to have flat main while reefed: that was one of many parts of the system to get working, what did "he" say ? Mission acc... naw that is too easy. First mains did not reef very well. The final version reefs very well, quite flat at first reef and OK all the rest of the way up to at least 3/4ths of the sail reefed away. Key is that the clew must roll tighter than the tack and the tack is thicker than the clew, how do you do that. Close look at clew on video will reveal all.
Mike Inmon
Now, as to need to have flat main while reefed: that was one of many parts of the system to get working, what did "he" say ? Mission acc... naw that is too easy. First mains did not reef very well. The final version reefs very well, quite flat at first reef and OK all the rest of the way up to at least 3/4ths of the sail reefed away. Key is that the clew must roll tighter than the tack and the tack is thicker than the clew, how do you do that. Close look at clew on video will reveal all.
Mike Inmon
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mikelinmon
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It is doable, but not done yet. Problem is the X has about a 85 degree angle with the mast, needed is a 90 otherwise the sail will migrate toward the clew when rolling. I "think" cutting the main tack to about 9-12 inches above the tack will make the proper angle. This will leave a gap between the boom and the main tack, but might make it work. Will try it on some local sailors 26X one day soon.tlperrine wrote:Mike, is this available for the 26x?
Terry
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Re: Roller Reefing Main
Anyone got info on roller reefing mainsails yet for the 26x????
I'm in the market for something simple.
Mike???
I'm in the market for something simple.
Mike???
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Re: Roller Reefing Main
Didn't Schock build a water ballast boat--23/24' that had a furling main? I think it had a roll-a-way galley also
Bob
Bob
