Choosing a 26X Resale

[tangentair]

After 5000+ miles and 200+ days onboard I can tell you that I am glad that I choose a Mac. The plus points are so much better like going to windward into a 20+ wind. Space inside, weight, etc....

Just looking out the window at it resting, waiting for the winter to end, bringing back memories, and hopeing to make new ones, a trusted friend who is ready to go, without complaint, yet with little querks that add special character - well that is enough to make a cowboy leave his horse.[/code][/quote]

[bubba]

We bought our 06M the day before Thansgiving and have sailed and stayed overnight 38 days sence then. My wife and I love it. Winter sailing without persional watercraft and big noisey power boats is great here on the Columbia river. Our purchase deal on a one year boat was great, the origional owner's new house intrest went up so much they could't afford both so we got this practially new at about half the price. So look around, even if you need to trailor from another state ( oh you are in Texas thats like me saying look in another country HA) but look around.

[Terry]

Just another question regarding motors, about how many hours should a 50HP 4 stroke go with normal maintenance? Something like a Honda or Yamaha? One boat that I'm looking at has just about 600 hours on it right now, but the guy has all the maintenance records and it appears that he has done a good job of preventive maintenance.

An eng on a mac with only 1000hrs will most likely only have about 200hrs of hard running which helps clean the carbon out , most four strokes o/b run around 4000hrs before needing any major work just food for thought the hrs dont mean as much as the maint. that was done . no maint. is the issue

I think 10 years/1000 hours is a good marker for end of life, and certainly end-of-value.

Hope my Honda does better than that!

So where do you guys get these hours data from; do the engines have some sort of built in clock, or do you guys attache a stop watch to them or heaven forbid because I wouldn't believe you on this last one; you actually write down how many hours you ran the engine that day and every day thereafter, I don't think so... I sure don't but I do maintain it well, change the oil regularly, the leg gear oil bi-anually and the impeller as well. The Honda Center gets big bucks from me but that is because I want total assurance every season that it won't break down. Actually given the Honda Reputation I expect manny years from it.
In these northern Lats we don't get to put as many hours on them due to the short sailing season.

[tangentair]

Some upmarket tachometers will have an hour meter.

[Russ]

So where do you guys get these hours data from; do the engines have some sort of built in clock, or do you guys attache a stop watch to them or heaven forbid because I wouldn't believe you on this last one; you actually write down how many hours you ran the engine that day and every day thereafter, I don't think so... I sure don't but I do maintain it well, change the oil regularly, the leg gear oil bi-anually and the impeller as well. The Honda Center gets big bucks from me but that is because I want total assurance every season that it won't break down. Actually given the Honda Reputation I expect manny years from it.
In these northern Lats we don't get to put as many hours on them due to the short sailing season.

My Suzi tach has a light that blinks a certain number of times every X number of hours.
If I remember correctly, the first 20 hours (break in period) it blinks. Then after that every 100 hours it blinks another sequence.

[RickJ]

So where do you guys get these hours data from?

Mine has an hours meter as a separate instrument on the console. It's just an hour counter wired to the motor ignition circuit. When the motor's switched on it clocks up time. This was all fitted by a PO - simple but effective.

[Catigale]

The modern engines all have some memory in them that store operating hours - you do need the tool to read that out, but the info is there.

Im not saying engines wont last more than 1000 hours or 10 years. But I think its the right answer to the question as posed ROM, and certainly correct for end-of-value.

How much would you pay for a 10 year old outboard? Less then the install costs, I bet.

[MadMacX]

Well, once again guys, your input is sincerely appreciated. On Thursday I'm off to look at three Mac X's that I have found. All different years, different power and lots of different options. It should be interesting!

Thanks,
Pat

[Terry]

The modern engines all have some memory in them that store operating hours - you do need the tool to read that out, but the info is there.
Im not saying engines wont last more than 1000 hours or 10 years. But I think its the right answer to the question as posed ROM, and certainly correct for end-of-value.
How much would you pay for a 10 year old outboard? Less then the install costs, I bet.

How much would I pay for a 10 year old engine??? Well that depends on a number of variables. Firts off - how much would it cost me to replace it, that would be the initial impact on my decision. Then I want to know how well it was maintained and how many hours are on it as that would be another impact on my decision. Up here in the PNW someone might have bought a brand new engine and only used it on their SailBoat a few seasons then lost interest for several years then put it up for sale. It could be a 10 year old engine but only somewhat used and if it checks out to be in sound condition then I'd have to compare the price to replacement cost and go from there. Certainly one could expect a price reductionfor a 10 year old engine but one cannot expect it to be a giveaway just because it is 10 years old. It could easily have another 10 years life to it up in the PNW given our short sailing season.
Too many people out there looking for a deal - something for nothing - they think sellers should give it away for a token dollar. I have heard all manner of comments about what options are worth and my response would be "Fine, you don't think the options have any value, then I will remove them and strip the boat, lets see what it costs you to replace all those options." Then observe the look on their face. Options are worth about 50% of replacement value depending on which option is being valued.

[Highlander]

Terry

All the newer eng. store all running hrs in the ECU they can tell you how many hard hrs , cruising hrs trolling hrs all eng codes that apeared temp. overheating all that good stuff so if some one cooked that eng at some time you'll know although a dealer can clear out some old codes if he wanted to
I would say the average 10yr old eng. on the PNW or Ontario would have approx 3yrs wear on it but if the eng has been on the same boat since new the condition of the boat should give you some kinda clue to its condition if the boat is in excellent condition good chances are the eng was taken care of just as well

J