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How to steal a 26M

A forum for discussing topics relating to MacGregor Powersailor Sailboats
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Lease
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Post by Lease »

I wonder if this is going to be too controversial then?

6,000 kilometres and haven't had a single 'moment'. Just love that active suspension:

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Divecoz
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Post by Divecoz »

Lease I cannot make it out in the picture . So what kind of car/wagon is that? Engine size? wheel base? that's 3600 miles give or take so how far do you usually tow at one time? Highway turnpike or 2ndary roads?
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Lease
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Mostly on the freeway, though I do some secondary roads.

Most trips are to the lakes which are about 300 kilometres each way. There have been two trips of 900 & 1,000 kilometres each way.

The car is a Citroen C5 wagon (you don't get Citroen there). It is a - wait for it - 2 litre petrol four. It is not what you would set out to use for this particular application, but it does the job quite admirably, and I bought the car before the boat. It has a rated towing capacity of 1.9 tonnes. From a stability/safety point of view it's brilliant. ESP, ABS, EBD, traction control etc, and of course the hydro-pneumatic suspension which keeps the car level in all situations. It is very useful for compensating in corners, etc.

All of that said, I can't contemplate climbing escarpments, or any slopes in excess of about 10-12 degrees. I also have to pick my ramps, though I haven't had a problem yet. For the nay sayers, no, it will not provide local amusement by sliding down a steep ramp into the water. I've done some controlled tests, and it would have to be a very slippery, very steep ramp indeed.

Would I go again? No. There is no substitute for weight and power authority for flexibility in all towing situations. My previous vehicle that I towed my trailertri with was a mid-sized SUV, which I truly despised in city traffic. I'll be getting a Hyundai Santa Fe CRDi mid next year to replace this car, and I will miss the comfort hugely.

For the record I definitely DO NOT agree with people who insist that nothing short of a 3 tonne crew cab is necessary to tow a Mac. That sort of thinking is like the BOAC Captian that was once asked how many engines an airliner need to be safe. The alledged answer was "Well, if the engineer reported "Captain, I have had to shut down number 27", then my response would be Number 27 Mr. Engineer? Very good, which side?"

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Post by davidbagnall »

Hey Lease!

Great to see a man with some class :wink: I have been driving French cars for years and just can't get enough of them. I drive Peugeots and found them to be the best. My last car I used for towing was a 406 (until a truck decided to drive over the top of me last year). We got a Mazda Tribute as the tow car and I was looking at a Citron Xantia wagon to replace my pug. My wife called it a “fuddy duddy” car and suggested I may have to find alternative sleeping arrangements if I got said “fuddy duddy” car. So this was the car she said I was allowed to get.

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I am putting a tow bar on it soon (it’s too small for the Mac but fine for my 14ft cat and camper trailer)... But then again

After all you gotta arrive in style 8) 8) 8)

PS I get to tow my boat home today (finally!!) so guess who has a busy weekend setting her up?
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Gazmn
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Post by Gazmn »

I'll let the Moderators handle our Trailers & Towing Tangent.

But make no mistake gentlemen, the above and this picture here should be captioned:

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I did this for 400 miles when I first brought my baby home - in high winds. Thank God for the PO upgrading to a dual axle galvanized trailer.

The Mini van was all I had when I dropped her in my marina.

But by the time I picked her up - at the end of the first season, I got this:
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There is no substitute for weight and power authority for flexibility in all towing situations.
- Just remember you said it. & yes, you can count me in on the 27 engines :)

Expensive? not really, I call it peace of mind :wink:

And white on white - on white just looks so pretty [White Etec too] 8)

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Stand up gentlemen -- there's a Lady present :) [/quote]
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Phillip
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Post by Phillip »

Lease.....I love Citreon.
At 23yrs of age I boougt a brand spanking new 1971 ID21 Safarri Palas.
Without a doubt, it is probably the best car I have ever owned.
Had the 4cyl 2L motor with spark pluds on the top.
Fantastic comfort, handling, and loved the driving lights that moved with the steering wheel.
Good choice Lease
Cheers
Phillip
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Highlander
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Post by Highlander »

Well

I can tell none of you's have ever driven an 18 wheeler wanting a tow trk as big as you trl !!! :D :D :D :P :wink:

Cheers John
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Post by waternwaves »

some have.......driven bigrigs


and remember how big those commerical tow rigs are when they have to tow a KW or Peterbilt. I have towed my mac with a B2000 mazda....

fine around the yard.....andrenaline charged at anything over 45 mph.
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Post by DAVEWVU86 »

waternwaves wrote:John,

I am still looking for a 65 I can make a deal on...... but I think we need one on both coasts....
so keep your eye's open... :wink:

I was merely suggesting that I go down and pick up 'your' new 26M

I have retired 2 of my 3 tow vehicles this week...... the F-250's, and I am now going to tow with the new baby....a little f-150 supercrew..... it seems to ride nice with the boat., so I guess it can tow a macM

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Nice truck. I picked up a 2005 Lariat back in July. It tows my 26m like it's an inflatable
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Re: BoatTrader Macgregor scam

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Luke wrote:I emailed to the "owner" a question about the boat. I knew it was a scam because they listed the boat as being located in Jewett Ohio, a small town not too far from my home. There is no boat dealer in Jewett. Below is the emailed response I got from the scammer.
Luke

Thank you for your interest in our boat: 2004 Macgregor 26 M Powersailer STILL FOR SALE
Price: $11,200.00
We've taken very good care of the boat (always garaged). It's never had any accidents, no scratches, no dents, it's got the original paintwork. For more information please visit our website at www.boat-shop.biz. You may ask for additional help from our live support team, thank you.

Best Regards,
John M.
I want to live in a house with a garage big enough for my 26m......
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Post by Highlander »

Dave

Like this :) :P :wink:

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Cheers John
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<---- Dreams of building his dream garage someday........
eric3a

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waternwaves
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Post by waternwaves »

Eric.....

It is kind of an american thing.....

especially those of us who live in inclement climes........

some of us ended up spending a lot of time in our garages or shops in the winter.... and now have ideas for making that sojourn into practical selfsuffiency more comfortable.
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